slu72 Posted April 16, 2014 Share Posted April 16, 2014 I missed it, but looked it up on the web. Probably didn't get the whole interview, but did get the bad part by O'Reilly, who I usually consider a straight shooter. He asked Calipari really stupid and "old man" questions that dealt with rap, drugs, sex etc. Basically saying how do you coach out of control kids these days? To Calipari's credit, although I still don't buy his sincerity, he handled O'Reilly well. Things like, he looks for lcharacter, his team has a 3.0 gpa, they come to KY for character building. Typical Calipari lines of BS. What O'Reilly should have been probing is how do you justify bringing in kids for one year of joke academics, how did Derrick Rose get in when it was shown he had someone take his SAT test, why he's the only HC to have two NCAA appearances invalidated, etc.? Anyone see the whole interview? And since Calipari's on a book tour to hawk his book, Players first, Coaching from the inside out, I sure hope someone tough really grills him hard about his coaching ethics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moytoy12 Posted April 16, 2014 Share Posted April 16, 2014 Ace commenting in 3...2...1... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimbofive Posted April 16, 2014 Share Posted April 16, 2014 Ace commenting in 3...2...1... Don't count your cans before they've hatched... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billikenboy Posted April 16, 2014 Share Posted April 16, 2014 Pay attention to the NCAA and the system of greed they have created. Can't blame the smart programs like Kentucky for taking advantage of this runaway gravy train. Glad the boys can eat more unlimited meals now as if that will calm the waters. Thanks for nothing! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milwaukeebill Posted April 16, 2014 Share Posted April 16, 2014 Kids are so out of control these days with their social media and their hip hop. Did you see those Kentucky players wearing headphones everywhere! I have no idea how anyone could coach these kids.* *sarcasm. I wonder if bill o Reilly asked about how much hip hop that rutgers coach listened to. Talk about whose really out of control. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianstl Posted April 16, 2014 Share Posted April 16, 2014 I wonder how O''Reilly finds time for his show with all the time he spends making sure kids stay off his grass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ACE Posted April 16, 2014 Share Posted April 16, 2014 Ace commenting in 3...2...1... Well since you asked I actually think BO is pretty smart among the political entertainers. I get a kick out of watching hm sometimes. He is very skilled at delivering what the core of his audience wants. The fake outrage over young African-American basketball players listening to rap... Perfect example. He is "tough" with guests his audience wants him to get tough with. John Calipari would not fall into that category. The Coach is wildly popular in a deep red state where I'm sure there are a lot of loyal BO viewers... O'Reilly is not going to take him on. I agree with some of the "tough" questions slu72 would like to see asked of Calipari, but BO is not the guy to ask those. Neither are the tools from ESPN who fawn all over him. A guy like Bob Costas would be the right guy to ask those questions if he were to ever get an in-depth interview. He has the credibility and a style that allows him to be tough, but where it doesn't come across as an attention grabbing smear job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MB73 Posted April 16, 2014 Share Posted April 16, 2014 Bob Costas? Tough questions? Credibility? He is an ass. He portrayed Vladimir Putin as a great peacemaker. “Just in the past year, Putin brokered a deal to allow Syria to avoid a U.S. military strike by giving up its chemical weapons,” Costas intoned over pictures of Putin wheeling and dealing on the world stage. “And helped bring Iran to the negotiating table over its nuclear intentions.” O'Reilly is spot on with his assessments of the problems we face with these athletes running amok, out of control. Most everyone on this board knows that SO many of the players at Kentucky and many other national "powers" do not even belong in college. Not all, but too many. The whole NCAA landscape needs to be redone, overhauled, restructured, in many categories. The Northwestern union campaign is just the start of a long process branching out into many areas that need reform. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ACE Posted April 16, 2014 Share Posted April 16, 2014 Bob Costas? Tough questions? Credibility? He is an ass. He portrayed Vladimir Putin as a great peacemaker. “Just in the past year, Putin brokered a deal to allow Syria to avoid a U.S. military strike by giving up its chemical weapons,” Costas intoned over pictures of Putin wheeling and dealing on the world stage. “And helped bring Iran to the negotiating table over its nuclear intentions.” O'Reilly is spot on with his assessments of the problems we face with these athletes running amok, out of control. Most everyone on this board knows that SO many of the players at Kentucky and many other national "powers" do not even belong in college. Not all, but too many. The whole NCAA landscape needs to be redone, overhauled, restructured, in many categories. The Northwestern union campaign is just the start of a long process branching out into many areas that need reform. Yeah, going after "rap music" is really getting to the heart of the matter. There's nothing "tough" ranting about the music that 18-year-old African-Americans listen to. It's an obvious target for BO's audience. Being tough would have been confronting the multi-million dollar coach of those kids who has had TWO NCAA Final Fours stripped. Wouldn't addressing that or the Derrick Rose test scandal be better issues if you really are concerned with what ails college athletics? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MB73 Posted April 16, 2014 Share Posted April 16, 2014 Yeah, going after "rap music" is really getting to the heart of the matter. There's nothing "tough" ranting about the music that 18-year-old African-Americans listen to. It's an obvious target for BO's audience. Being tough would have been confronting the multi-million dollar coach of those kids who has had TWO NCAA Final Fours stripped. Wouldn't addressing that or the Derrick Rose test scandal be better issues if you really are concerned with what ails college athletics? O'Reilly went further than anyone, who else is on TV challenging Calapari face to face? As for rap music, I, too, think it damages our youth and significantly distracts many of them from finding a pathway to success. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MusicCityBilliken Posted April 16, 2014 Share Posted April 16, 2014 As for rap music, I, too, think it damages our youth and significantly distracts many of them from finding a pathway to success. Come on MB. Your my generation and you like me heard the same 'song and dance' about listening to Elvis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MB73 Posted April 16, 2014 Share Posted April 16, 2014 Come on MB. Your my generation and you like me heard the same 'song and dance' about listening to Elvis. HA, true , but like anything else, it is a matter of degree, the world has changed, but we are still human beings, and rap / hip-hop is way out of control. No comparison. With rap, there is the constant use of the banned-for-some-but-not-others "N" word, the incredible direct language degrading females, the explicit description of sexual acts... hey would you like your daughter or granddaughter listening to it? Does ACE? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ACE Posted April 16, 2014 Share Posted April 16, 2014 O'Reilly went further than anyone, who else is on TV challenging Calapari face to face? As for rap music, I, too, think it damages our youth and significantly distracts many of them from finding a pathway to success. He "challenged" Calipari? Huh? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZi0DcLsJSw All he did was express outrage about the kids. Nothing about Calipari's role in NCAA scandals. There will always be some music or dance craze that gets old folks upset - jazz, punk rock, the Jitterbug, the twist, rock-n-roll. Naughty lyrics are not unique to rap. Have you ever heard some of Ted Nugent's lyrics? Come on, there are a LOT more obstacles blocking "pathways to success" than rap music. SLU72 nailed it in his original post. It was a softball interview and all the stuff about sex, drugs and rap were little more than pandering to his core audience. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiseOfTheBillikens Posted April 16, 2014 Share Posted April 16, 2014 O'Reilly went further than anyone, who else is on TV challenging Calapari face to face? As for rap music, I, too, think it damages our youth and significantly distracts many of them from finding a pathway to success. Smh ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MusicCityBilliken Posted April 16, 2014 Share Posted April 16, 2014 HA, true , but like anything else, it is a matter of degree, the world has changed, but we are still human beings, and rap / hip-hop is way out of control. No comparison. With rap, there is the constant use of the banned-for-some-but-not-others "N" word, the incredible direct language degrading females, the explicit description of sexual acts... hey would you like your daughter or granddaughter listening to it? Does ACE? True story , my 4th grade teacher, Sister Mary Frances caught me reading a Beatles fan magazine in between my catechism. It was 1962 or 3 and she she said I was going to grow up to be a moral degenerate with all the other kids that listen to this garbage. At age 8 or 9, that adjective went right over my head not knowing what that meant. In '09, I went to a Ringo Starr concert at the Beau Rivage Casino in Biloxi, mostly a boomer crowd, middle and upper middle class and respectively dressed. Who knew? Elvis was pretty much an issue between older brother and sister with my parents and as I recall his gyration was considered a sexual act. My son listened to hip-hop when he was in HS and college but as he grew older his taste for music expanded. I can at least drive in the car with him now and not have tell him this music makes no sense to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hsmith19 Posted April 16, 2014 Share Posted April 16, 2014 Sounds like a hilarious interview all around. Not sure if it could top the inevitable "really stupid and old man comments" from MB73 on here, though... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hsmith19 Posted April 16, 2014 Share Posted April 16, 2014 HA, true , but like anything else, it is a matter of degree, the world has changed, but we are still human beings, and rap / hip-hop is way out of control. No comparison. With rap, there is the constant use of the banned-for-some-but-not-others "N" word, the incredible direct language degrading females, the explicit description of sexual acts... hey would you like your daughter or granddaughter listening to it? Does ACE? Hahahahaha. Man, I knew when I saw the thread title there would be some goodies in here, but I didn't dare to dream we would get the tried and true "why can't I drop the n-bomb with impunity?" spin on the white man persecution complex... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MB73 Posted April 16, 2014 Share Posted April 16, 2014 ACE (who stated Bob Costas is credible) says rap & hip-hop are the same as the jitterbug. the twist, and rock and roll. Oh. I am sure there are worse, but: "If you don't bring back my m****f*****n money or my m***f****n dope, you can forget about Christmas n*****a, cause you ain't gon even see New Years." Though, this one is funny: "Got a Bill in my mouth like I'm Hillary Rodham." Where is the Tommy Liddell rap video? Are we happy with that? I give up, with ACE and dullards like the Boone County kid who questions the double standard of the use of the "N" word; we are doomed. If Billiken grads are this naïve, can you imagine how bad the Missouri U grads are? (BIGS are the key, do not worry so much about our guards, they will be OK. BIGS are the key) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MB73 Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 ACE (who also stated Bob Costas is credible) says rap & hip-hop are the same as the jitterbug. the twist, and rock and roll. Oh. I am sure there are worse, but: "If you don't bring back my m****f*****n money or my m***f****n dope, you can forget about Christmas n*****a, cause you ain't gon even see New Years." Though, this one is funny: "Got a Bill in my mouth like I'm Hillary Rodham." Where is the Tommy Liddell rap video? Are we happy with that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moytoy12 Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 We need more cerebral/heady gym rat types. And by cerebral, I mean white. Right, MB? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MB73 Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 Whoa, you are es-ploding over this. Calm down. I never said, nor implied, anything of the sort. No, in itself, that would not be an effective, successful strategy in basketball, though it clearly works in the USA in baseball, hockey, golf, distance running, boring soccer, lacrosse, and some other sports. So, there you go, now, your next smart ass comment, please? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ACE Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 ACE (who stated Bob Costas is credible) says rap & hip-hop are the same as the jitterbug. the twist, and rock and roll. Oh. I am sure there are worse, but: "If you don't bring back my m****f*****n money or my m***f****n dope, you can forget about Christmas n*****a, cause you ain't gon even see New Years." Though, this one is funny: "Got a Bill in my mouth like I'm Hillary Rodham." Where is the Tommy Liddell rap video? Are we happy with that? I give up, with ACE and dullards like the Boone County kid who questions the double standard of the use of the "N" word; we are doomed. If Billiken grads are this naïve, can you imagine how bad the Missouri U grads are? (BIGS are the key, do not worry so much about our guards, they will be OK. BIGS are the key) Again, what does any of that have to do with a softball interview BO conducted with Calipari? Slu72 captured it. You are missing the point. And you really don't get the N-word "double standard"? I suggest if it want to make things more fair, feel free to call your white friends "honky." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milwaukeebill Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 Whoa, you are es-ploding over this. Calm down. I never said, nor implied, anything of the sort. No, in itself, that would not be an effective, successful strategy in basketball, though it clearly works in the USA in baseball, hockey, golf, distance running, boring soccer, lacrosse, and some other sports. So, there you go, now, your next smart ass comment, please? I listened to rap once. I went on a huge crime spree the next day because I'm not smart enough to separate music lyrics from real life. Fyi. these Kentucky kids aren't listening to hip hop and then destroying society. They're listening to hip hop then taking advantage of a convoluted student athlete system to get paid millions. If that's not the most American thing ever I don't know what is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ACE Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 I listened to rap once. I went on a huge crime spree the next day because I'm not smart enough to separate music lyrics from real life. Fyi. these Kentucky kids aren't listening to hip hop and then destroying society. They're listening to hip hop then taking advantage of a convoluted student athlete system to get paid millions. If that's not the most American thing ever I don't know what is. And the adults (Calipari and the school) are making millions off the kids in the "convoluted student athlete system"... yet BO saves all of his outrage for the rap and the drugs. By the way, why did BO bring up drugs in relation to the UK team? I'm definitely not a fan, but I don't recall that being an issue there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milwaukeebill Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 Marshall Henderson is the most notorious dude in college ball. I hope o reilly goes after Andy Kennedy next if he's really concerned about drugs in college athletics Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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