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  1. 1. Which 5 players will start the most games this season?



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Not asking who will be the opening night starters, but asking which 5 guys will start the most games this season. Will Crews go with his seniors and experience or will he eventually lean on the freshmen and sophomores?

PS I know some people hate these threads, but just wanted to get some current season Billiken basketball discussion going.

I also know some haven't seen people this summer and refuse to believe reports from the summer, so just make your best guess based on what you have seen and choose to believe.

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I don't see crawford starting a lot. Not saying he won't be one of the better players though

I think there's a strong probability Crawford starts, and plays a lot. JM, YA, AM and GG depending on his injury are my picks to start. With TL, RA and MB first one's off the bench.

Defense trumps offense at SLU. Learning our defense takes a while and a commitment.

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What matters is who will be starting and who will be in the 8-9 man rotation by the time conference play starts.

We should run a billikens.com lottery on who starts the opening conference game.

Too many unknowns.

Good potential, quality recruits, but it will be work in progress for several months. Who will emerge, who will fill their role, which players will jell?

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I really think Mcbroom, Ash, Glaze, and Manning are set as starters with Glaze, then McBroom most likely to lose their starting job. That scenario is doubtful though.

If those are the 4 starters than I like Crawford as the 5th guy but I hope we are playing our 5 best players as well. If Lancona is the 5th best player than he needs to be in the lineup, positions be damned.

Barring injury I don't think we see a freshman start, unless we are playing well below .500.

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I really think Mcbroom, Ash, Glaze, and Manning are set as starters with Glaze, then McBroom most likely to lose their starting job. That scenario is doubtful though.

If those are the 4 starters than I like Crawford as the 5th guy but I hope we are playing our 5 best players as well. If Lancona is the 5th best player than he needs to be in the lineup, positions be damned.

Barring injury I don't think we see a freshman start, unless we are playing well below .500.

Torch. If you are correct, then I change my prediction to that of SLU72 -- a losing season at 14-16

No. If Glaze starts, much less plays meaningful minutes, then it will be a long and forgettable season. No way can, and will Glaze start, except for his limited role as an "energy" starter. As to Manning, you are right, he SHOULD be our starter in that he has been RL's backup for 3 years, he has certainly had his opportunity to develop, to learn the system, to get stronger and now to start. At the same time, he has never stepped up so far and therefore I cannot place him in the role of a starter yet. As to McBroom, yes, he will be a starter at the beginning of the season. By conference, though, I sure hope he is replaced in that his lack of size and lack of distribution skills makes him a role player -- not a starter on a good team.

As to TL, yes, he has outside shooting skill but any talk about him playing the 3 should be put to rest. IMO, TL has fewer guard skills than CE did and CE never could play the 3. Instead, if RA develops as we hope/expect, then I can certainly see TL and RA playing the 4 and 5 spots with Manning again as the backup 5. Also, if we are not going to compete for the conference championship/make the NCAA, then I would play the Freshmen and Sophs and make this season a learning/development year so that we return to the top of the conference/NCAA Tourney next year.

As to this topic in general, though, I'd suggest it we wait at least until after November 1st before expressing meaningful opinions.

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My hardest decision was between RA and TL. I chose RA because I believe when healthy he will be more of a physical presence. I foresee AM, AY, MC, RA, JM getting the majority of the starts.

We always like to speculate that SLU will shoot better from outside and I'm not sure if it is statistically correct but the perception is we haven't shot that well from outside. Maybe that's driven by SLU not shooting well from outside in big situations like the Conference or NCAA Games.

We won't have a 5 that can hit 3s this year. However, I think that MC brings versatility at the 3 to slash and pop from outside. Loved DE but he was not an outside shooter. So we'll see a slightly different offensive dynamic and I am optimistic.

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My hardest decision was between RA and TL. I chose RA because I believe when healthy he will be more of a physical presence. I foresee AM, AY, MC, RA, JM getting the majority of the starts.

We always like to speculate that SLU will shoot better from outside and I'm not sure if it is statistically correct but the perception is we haven't shot that well from outside. Maybe that's driven by SLU not shooting well from outside in big situations like the Conference or NCAA Games.

We won't have a 5 that can hit 3s this year. However, I think that MC brings versatility at the 3 to slash and pop from outside. Loved DE but he was not an outside shooter. So we'll see a slightly different offensive dynamic and I am optimistic.

It is true. We finished 302nd in 3pt % last season.

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Crews and the other coaches seemed high on Crawford's defense by the end of the year. There were hints that they weren't as enamored of Lancona's defense yet. That's why I was assuming Crawford had more of a shot to start and Lancona was more likely to end up in a sniper/bench role, at least to start the season.

I'm assuming Glaze and Agbeko will share starts at the 4. My guess is Agbeko ends up with more.

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It is true. We finished 302nd in 3pt % last season.

Optimism: we are returning our three best 3 point shooters (Crawford 43%, Lancona 36%, McBroom 35%) by 3pt% (minimum 14 attempts). Mike McCall (32%) is the only guy we are losing whose % was above the team average (31.6%). Hopefully our outside shooting % will be better simply by losing so many guys who shot for a low %.

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Loe and even Ellis deserve all they credit they get for being good shooters for their positions/size and for "stretching the floor" as a result, but at the same time their percentages were always very mediocre. It seems reasonable that this team will eventually shoot better from 3 as a group.

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My prediction for starters are:

AM - 1

AY - 2

TL or MC-3

RA - 4

JM - 5

This is subject to change since certain positions have more player options. I also expect to see walkons enter the fray as well. I do not expect that this group will have any problems scoring. Defensively if they can raise their level over the season I am confident they will be hard to beat. I expect Crews to drill that into their heads daily.

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-clock, in your comments on GG, how are you defining meaningful minutes? playing at crunch time or the number of minutes played or both or something else?

Until GG shows me that he is deserving to start, to play at crunch time, to deserve a fair amount of minutes (however you want to define meaningful), then I would not play him. So far, I have not seen all that much from GG. Energy guy 2 years ago as a Sophomore? OK, I get that -- he needed time to gain experience and show what he could do - and if he brought energy, motivated players, set the tone and filled a role - then great. Now that he is a Senior, now that he has had his chances to produce, if he is still not producing, then sorry, I go with a youngster and build for next year. Honestly, if I were the head coach, I would have a completely open mind with GG this year, I would try to reward my Seniors for their prior hard work and play them, but if he has not improved, I would not have a problem with him getting 2 to 4 minutes per game in a mop up role.

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With GG being hurt I think he will fall behind a couple of other players in playing at that 4 spot. I see him more as a backup to the backup. I see TL and MY being used at that position ahead of GG since both bring real skills to the table. More so MY since TL is not a traditional 4. I suspect GG would have been 3rd in line but his injury may have slowed his progress. At the PG position, AM gets the start but I think a frosh or two will get the major mins and AM playing at the 2 mainly behind AY as the season goes on.

At the 3, MC and TL, will get the minutes there but TL might have the upper hand with his size. Either way there will be some good pt to go around for both guys regardless of who starts.

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