davidnark Posted November 15, 2008 Share Posted November 15, 2008 Tonight, UK lost 111-103 at home to VMI. Harrellson had 0 points and 2 rebounds in 6 minutes. (For those who struggle with math, that is 0 out of 103 or 0.000000% of UK's points.) Surprisingly, I didn't read any post game quotes in which he explained how good he was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinfootes Posted November 15, 2008 Share Posted November 15, 2008 Tonight, UK lost 111-103 at home to VMI. Harrellson had 0 points and 2 rebounds in 6 minutes. (For those who struggle with math, that is 0 out of 103 or 0.000000% of UK's points.) Surprisingly, I didn't read any post game quotes in which he explained how good he was. Kentucky is way down. Wow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kshoe Posted November 15, 2008 Share Posted November 15, 2008 Tonight, UK lost 111-103 at home to VMI. Harrellson had 0 points and 2 rebounds in 6 minutes. (For those who struggle with math, that is 0 out of 103 or 0.000000% of UK's points.) Surprisingly, I didn't read any post game quotes in which he explained how good he was. I'm not one that typically likes to play the comparative score game but didn't that same UK team beat UMSL by 40+ points. Sure doesn't bode well for us given our performance tonight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BillikenReport Posted November 15, 2008 Share Posted November 15, 2008 We'll see what happens with Harrellson's playing time this season. I don't know if Kentucky promised him he would start or just that he could start. I'm sure Harrellson is enjoying the benefits that come from being a Kentucky basketball player, but if he rides the bench all year I wonder if he'll be disappointed by his decision. Kentucky also signed a 6-foot-9 post player this week who is regarded as one of the best bigs in the country. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjray Posted November 15, 2008 Share Posted November 15, 2008 Tonight, UK lost 111-103 at home to VMI. Harrellson had 0 points and 2 rebounds in 6 minutes. (For those who struggle with math, that is 0 out of 103 or 0.000000% of UK's points.) Surprisingly, I didn't read any post game quotes in which he explained how good he was. Harrelson could have been a boost to our team. It's a loss for us and for him. The Billikens will quickly recover from not having Josh Harrellson but the "what might have been" questions for Josh shall be legion. I feel sorry for him. If he can't get court time this season, he's toast on that roster. They'll recruit over him with each class. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheA_Bomb Posted November 15, 2008 Share Posted November 15, 2008 I don't feel sorry for him at all. He's a big boy now he has to live with that choice. It will be oh so tough to ride the pine at a school that has the best basketball tradition, first rate everything, ravenous fans/boosters, hot coeds, and on and on. Oh yeah he gets a free edumaction too can't forget that. I liked Gillespie's Texas A&M teams they seemed to always hustle and play lock down Defense. What is going on now? He and the entire Wildcat nation are probably asking themselves the same thing this morning. That dude is under some intense pressure. Big Job, Big Expectations, Big Headaches. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STL Hoops Insider Posted November 15, 2008 Share Posted November 15, 2008 If they continue to struggle it would probably mean more minutes for Josh, probably not less. I wouldnt say his season is over yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Box and Won Posted November 15, 2008 Share Posted November 15, 2008 Dustin Maguire scored eleventy billion points in just 23 minutes of action against the University of Southeast Suburban Akron last night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taj79 Posted November 15, 2008 Share Posted November 15, 2008 Can we drop all this stuff now? This is going to go on forever. Replace Blake Ahearn with Josh Harrelson. Replace Blake Ahearn with Dustin Maguire. Replace Blake Ahearn with Kramer Soderberg. I intend to watch all those kids, as I did Ahearn at Missouri State. I intend to look in and see how Roundtree and Booker are doing at SIU. I did the same with David Lee and will do the same with Tyus, Swopeshire, and the rest. I will obviously watch intently with John (once he gets off his redshirt season). I followed the progress of Sheldon, the Hills, Gordon, Ellis, Carrawell, McKinney, Woods, White, Upchurch and others that left the area for bigger pots of gold. I wish good luck and no ill will to any of them; when faced with a major decision in their lives, they made the one they wanted to at the time. Shouldas/couldas/wouldas will always persist. After being taken to task for a 'box score review" in another thread, let me offer another one --- I am guessing that Josh's game doesn't cotton well to a game in which 214 points were scored, yes? Hulking big man, maybe, in a run-n-shoot marathon? I don't know, I'm just guessing. Much like one game did not make a career for the departed Maguire, neither will one game make a career to Josh. Doesn't bode too well but its way to early to call. No one can say what would have happened if he stayed closer to home. Its pure speculation. It is just as easy to assume he would have blossomed here as it is to assume he would have p*ssed the Rick off and spent three years in Rick's doghouse. You just never know. My thoughts are these: I do not believe he will have much of an impact nor a career at Kentucky. He will, as someone already noted, get recruited over. Its what Kentucky and schools like that do. On the flip side, John may get recruited over. Its what Majerus and other big name coaches also do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lefty Posted November 15, 2008 Share Posted November 15, 2008 Can we drop all this stuff now? This is going to go on forever. Replace Blake Ahearn with Josh Harrelson. Replace Blake Ahearn with Dustin Maguire. Replace Blake Ahearn with Kramer Soderberg. I intend to watch all those kids, as I did Ahearn at Missouri State. I intend to look in and see how Roundtree and Booker are doing at SIU. I did the same with David Lee and will do the same with Tyus, Swopeshire, and the rest. I will obviously watch intently with John (once he gets off his redshirt season). I followed the progress of Sheldon, the Hills, Gordon, Ellis, Carrawell, McKinney, Woods, White, Upchurch and others that left the area for bigger pots of gold. I wish good luck and no ill will to any of them; when faced with a major decision in their lives, they made the one they wanted to at the time. Shouldas/couldas/wouldas will always persist. After being taken to task for a 'box score review" in another thread, let me offer another one --- I am guessing that Josh's game doesn't cotton well to a game in which 214 points were scored, yes? Hulking big man, maybe, in a run-n-shoot marathon? I don't know, I'm just guessing. Much like one game did not make a career for the departed Maguire, neither will one game make a career to Josh. Doesn't bode too well but its way to early to call. No one can say what would have happened if he stayed closer to home. Its pure speculation. It is just as easy to assume he would have blossomed here as it is to assume he would have p*ssed the Rick off and spent three years in Rick's doghouse. You just never know. My thoughts are these: I do not believe he will have much of an impact nor a career at Kentucky. He will, as someone already noted, get recruited over. Its what Kentucky and schools like that do. On the flip side, John may get recruited over. Its what Majerus and other big name coaches also do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianstl Posted November 15, 2008 Share Posted November 15, 2008 I don't feel sorry for him at all. He's a big boy now he has to live with that choice. It will be oh so tough to ride the pine at a school that has the best basketball tradition, first rate everything, ravenous fans/boosters, hot coeds, and on and on. Oh yeah he gets a free edumaction too can't forget that. I liked Gillespie's Texas A&M teams they seemed to always hustle and play lock down Defense. What is going on now? He and the entire Wildcat nation are probably asking themselves the same thing this morning. That dude is under some intense pressure. Big Job, Big Expectations, Big Headaches. Come on, JH doesn't have to live with his choices. Just ask Derek Thomas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billiken_roy Posted November 15, 2008 Share Posted November 15, 2008 anyone got a link to the main kentucky message board. i would imagine that is some entertaining reading today! anytime one of the ncaa good ole boys takes a hit like this it is a great day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moytoy12 Posted November 15, 2008 Share Posted November 15, 2008 anyone got a link to the main kentucky message board. i would imagine that is some entertaining reading today! anytime one of the ncaa good ole boys takes a hit like this it is a great day. www.catspause.com is one of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimbofive Posted November 16, 2008 Share Posted November 16, 2008 Can we drop all this stuff now? This is going to go on forever. Replace Blake Ahearn with Josh Harrelson. Replace Blake Ahearn with Dustin Maguire. Replace Blake Ahearn with Kramer Soderberg. I intend to watch all those kids, as I did Ahearn at Missouri State. I intend to look in and see how Roundtree and Booker are doing at SIU. I did the same with David Lee and will do the same with Tyus, Swopeshire, and the rest. I will obviously watch intently with John (once he gets off his redshirt season). I followed the progress of Sheldon, the Hills, Gordon, Ellis, Carrawell, McKinney, Woods, White, Upchurch and others that left the area for bigger pots of gold. I wish good luck and no ill will to any of them; when faced with a major decision in their lives, they made the one they wanted to at the time. Shouldas/couldas/wouldas will always persist. After being taken to task for a 'box score review" in another thread, let me offer another one --- I am guessing that Josh's game doesn't cotton well to a game in which 214 points were scored, yes? Hulking big man, maybe, in a run-n-shoot marathon? I don't know, I'm just guessing. Much like one game did not make a career for the departed Maguire, neither will one game make a career to Josh. Doesn't bode too well but its way to early to call. No one can say what would have happened if he stayed closer to home. Its pure speculation. It is just as easy to assume he would have blossomed here as it is to assume he would have p*ssed the Rick off and spent three years in Rick's doghouse. You just never know. My thoughts are these: I do not believe he will have much of an impact nor a career at Kentucky. He will, as someone already noted, get recruited over. Its what Kentucky and schools like that do. On the flip side, John may get recruited over. Its what Majerus and other big name coaches also do. WHAT ABOUT SCOTT SUGGS!?!?!? IS HE CHOPPED LIVER!? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quality Is Job 1 Posted November 16, 2008 Share Posted November 16, 2008 Well, Kentucky had a rough go of it early last season, as well, if I recall correctly, yet they still made the NCAA Tournament. "Don't cry for me, billikens.com board!" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianstl Posted November 16, 2008 Share Posted November 16, 2008 Well, Kentucky had a rough go of it early last season, as well, if I recall correctly, yet they still made the NCAA Tournament. "Don't cry for me, billikens.com board!"That doesn't cut it at UK, just ask Tubby. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kshoe Posted November 16, 2008 Share Posted November 16, 2008 anyone got a link to the main kentucky message board. i would imagine that is some entertaining reading today! anytime one of the ncaa good ole boys takes a hit like this it is a great day. Who was the Kentucky guy that posted on this board for about a week after Harrellson signed with them. Mark something or another. Since he knew everything about everything I would love to get his take on last night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slu72 Posted November 17, 2008 Share Posted November 17, 2008 Who was the Kentucky guy that posted on this board for about a week after Harrellson signed with them. Mark something or another. Since he knew everything about everything I would love to get his take on last night.I play golf with a big KY fan. He said Harrelson didn't play because VMI's uptempo style. He couldn't run the floor. Otherwise, he says Patterson loves having JH to play alongside since he'll see fewer double teams on him. Only time's gonna' tell if UK was right for JH. This guy's guess is he's a stop gap big until the new kids arrive on campus. I have no idea why JH chose UK, but if I was a betting man, I'd say the night lights of Lexington and UK's bevy of good looking coeds turned his head. So, if he doesn't play much at UK, hoops that is, he'll get his playing time elsewhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BillikenReport Posted November 17, 2008 Share Posted November 17, 2008 Being a basketball player at UK comes with a lot more benefits than being a basketball player at SLU. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billiken_roy Posted November 17, 2008 Share Posted November 17, 2008 I play golf with a big KY fan. He said Harrelson didn't play because VMI's uptempo style. He couldn't run the floor. Otherwise, he says Patterson loves having JH to play alongside since he'll see fewer double teams on him. Only time's gonna' tell if UK was right for JH. This guy's guess is he's a stop gap big until the new kids arrive on campus. I have no idea why JH chose UK, but if I was a betting man, I'd say the night lights of Lexington and UK's bevy of good looking coeds turned his head. So, if he doesn't play much at UK, hoops that is, he'll get his playing time elsewhere. interesting. gillespie let vmi set the matchups. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clock_Tower Posted November 17, 2008 Share Posted November 17, 2008 Come on, JH doesn't have to live with his choices. Just ask Derek Thomas. Absolutely. Most guys make a college choice and stick with it. Here, JH made a really bad decision picking WIU, then was not honest with them, then goes to Belleville JUCO, says he wants SLU but then chooses UK. If UK turns out great for him, then best of luck. If it doesn't, then it will be because he has been recruited over - which was the known risk with UK. If UK turns out bad, then why feel sorry for a guy who KEEPS making bad choices? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3star_recruit Posted November 17, 2008 Share Posted November 17, 2008 Absolutely. Most guys make a college choice and stick with it. Here, JH made a really bad decision picking WIU, then was not honest with them, then goes to Belleville JUCO, says he wants SLU but then chooses UK. Harrellson never said he wanted SLU after going to juco. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cowboy Posted November 17, 2008 Share Posted November 17, 2008 Absolutely. Most guys make a college choice and stick with it. Here, JH made a really bad decision picking WIU, then was not honest with them, then goes to Belleville JUCO, says he wants SLU but then chooses UK. If UK turns out great for him, then best of luck. If it doesn't, then it will be because he has been recruited over - which was the known risk with UK. If UK turns out bad, then why feel sorry for a guy who KEEPS making bad choices? -about 51% of students who enter college graduate within 5 years from the institution where they enrolled, according to ACT, the college testing folks -that means 49% do not -i do not know the stats for student athletes, but kids move schools -i write this with great trepidation....we will run into this situation where a kid comes to slu and then wants to leave because it is not right for them, shimmy had this with a recruit, so be it -these are kids Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clock_Tower Posted November 17, 2008 Share Posted November 17, 2008 Harrellson never said he wanted SLU after going to juco. 3Star. I disagree. If you mean holding an official press conference while still the property of WIU, then you are correct. If you mean a non-binding commitment, then you are also correct. I have friends who know the family quite well and JH was very interested in SLU when RM took over and thereafter. But for the bright lights of UK, he'd be a Billiken now. Talking was done for JH as is done for nearly all kids. I am not holding some type of grudge b/c he chose UK over SLU. Instead, I wish him the best (as I said in my post) but if things don't go well for him, no sorrow coming from me. By all accounts, UK will continue to get better and better recruits. If things go as expected, JH may have a greater chance of playing time now for UK rather than as a senior with them. If that is the case and if his playing time is limited now, then UK may not turn out to be the best place for him. Then, again, JH could continue to develop and be a big time star player for UK. Only time will tell. Cowboy. Thanks for the statistics but dont' believe they are quite relevant here. Many kids quit college because of the lack of money/need to work and because they struggle academically. Basketball players have full scholarships, room & board and tutors. If college athletes quit school, they also quit playing the sport they love. Also, JH did not even enroll at WIU so it is not a case of him giving it a try and then changing his mind. If that happens with UK, then undrstand - kids do in fact transfer. Here, though, JH made a bad decision regarding WIU, was then forced to go to JUCO, now UK and then possibly another place - more drama than your average college student. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saluki762 Posted November 17, 2008 Share Posted November 17, 2008 -about 51% of students who enter college graduate within 5 years from the institution where they enrolled, according to ACT, the college testing folks -that means 49% do not -i do not know the stats for student athletes, but kids move schools -i write this with great trepidation....we will run into this situation where a kid comes to slu and then wants to leave because it is not right for them, shimmy had this with a recruit, so be it -these are kids Good post, facts many choose to ignore because they love a particular program so passionately. People are fickle, especially 18 y/o kids. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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