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  1. Recruiting would be alot different than recruiting at St Joes...
  2. That would be a stupid hire...She is a high school coach who has never had college coaching expierence. Hell she can't even win what she has at st joes. She would be in over her head. But on another note I hear Jill Pizzotti is applying for the SEMO head job
  3. Here are some items I just found on Craigslist for those who like this stuff. The monroe douglass picture is pretty Nice. http://stlouis.craigslist.org/spo/1825462621.html http://stlouis.craigslist.org/spo/1825464493.html
  4. I highly suggest every basketball fan go see this and support these st. louis guys!! http://streetballersthemovie.com/
  5. Look what happend with Cheryl, she did not want to fire Brad and he went over her head a fired him anyway.
  6. Probably because he has no say. Father Biondi calls all the shots and Chris May just does what he tells him to do
  7. On the ndnation message board..the bball fans are pissed that Mike Brey didnt get rid of some of their asst coaches. Kearney is going to Holy Cross..they hope this is Breys last season..Geez he has had a winning record every year and NCAA or NIT birth every year and they are not happy..Hell if they do get rid of him after this year which I doubt..We should get him..he can with with the SLU team we currently have and he is a proven winner..Rick just doesn't do it for me and plus Brey is upstanding guy who always sticks up for "His Guys"! But this is just a wish..I doubt ND will get rid of Mike Brey
  8. There are no rules in NAIA, you can start practice whenever you want to and you can recruit when you want to. There are no dead periods in NAIA
  9. SEMO November 4th. That should be a good game,they have a new coach in NUTT and some good players
  10. He will not be making anything over $70,000,plus they are NAIA Div II
  11. His salary will probably be in the range of 40,000-$70,000, that it what most NAIA coaches make. That is what my coach at MOBAP got paid, his salry was $45,000 and he taught classes too.
  12. Actually Bernsen did coachin Ireland but left for a job in Sweden. He is back now and is interviewing for the lindenwood coaching vacancy
  13. Upchurch Case: SLU Sought 'To Do Right' - Rejected St. Louisan Is Star For Houston St. Louis Post-Dispatch - Tuesday, February 14, 1989 Author: By Tom Wheatley ; Of the Post-Dispatch Staff St. Louis University's experience with basketball player Craig Upchurch is a case of what can happen when a school tries to combine a big-time athletic mission with a big-time academic mission. ''We wanted to do the right thing,'' Billikens coach Rich Grawer said. ''I think the whole university did. I really believe that.'' ''If we had accepted Craig Upchurch , you'd be writing now about why we couldn't keep him in school,'' said Charles Schroeder, SLU vice president for student affairs and overseer of the athletic department for the school's administration. ''We were damned if we did and damned if we didn't.'' In fact, SLU did accept Upchurch after the 6-foot-8 forward from Beaumont High signed a national letter of intent in the spring of 1987. His high school grades and his score on a college entrance test met National Collegiate Athletic Association minimums for eligibility. Yet Upchurch never made it to class at SLU in the fall of '87. After seeing Upchurch 's academic skills in a summer orientation program, SLU officials decided not to admit him. It was an unprecedented reversal. ''There were so many 'firsts' in this episode, we were just swamped by it,'' Grawer said. Upchurch then enrolled at the University of Houston, where he was one of the outstanding freshmen in the Southwest Conference in the 1987-88 season. Now a sophomore, he is Houston's best player and among the top players in the conference. But Upchurch 's basketball talent never was in doubt. ''He has to get stronger,'' Houston coach Pat Foster said of the 200-pound Upchurch . ''If he does, barring injury, you're looking at a 10-year pro.'' ''He's a program turner,'' said SLU assistant coach Jackson Wheeler, a neutral observer who came to SLU a year after Upchurch had signed. It is a fact of life among top teams that ''program turners'' with low academic skills can gain admission to college, sometimes to the best schools. For example, Duke and Georgetown have more exclusive admission policies than SLU does. Schroeder has stated publicly that those two schools are models for SLU's basketball program. Yet in the past decade or so, Duke and Georgetown each accepted a sub-marginal student who happened to be a program turner, Gene Banks at Duke and Patrick Ewing at Georgetown. Helped by diligent academic support programs, Banks earned a degree in history and religion, and Ewing earned a degree in fine arts. Helped by Banks, Duke made the Final Four in 1978. And helped by Ewing, Georgetown played in three NCAA championship games in his four seasons, winning once. Those players were admitted before the days of NCAA Proposition 48 guidelines. These require a high school senior to have a ''C '' average in certain core courses and a minimum score of either 700 on the SAT or 15 on the ACT college admissions test. Upchurch was not regarded as a strong student, but he had complied with every NCAA minimum standard. That's what made SLU's belated rejection so newsworthy. When word spread that Upchurch was no longer bound to SLU, Grawer's office was besieged with calls. Grawer said one of them was from a member of the staff at an Eastern school reputed to have tougher entrance requirements than SLU's. ''I said to the guy, 'How can you get him in if we can't get him in?' '' Grawer recalled. ''And he just laughed and said, 'Don't worry, we can get him in.' '' Grawer said he also got a sympathy phone call from coach Bobby Cremins of Georgia Tech, an engineering school that competes in the powerful Atlantic Coast Conference. ''All he said was that schools in the ACC have ways to get around this,'' Grawer said. ''He didn't mention Georgia Tech or any school in particular. He just said, 'It's going to be hard, Rich, but keep your head up and you can do it.' '' How could Upchurch have completed the necessary courses in English and math at Beaumont and still be found lacking by SLU? Insights into that question are hard to find. Beaumont principal Charles Brasfield Jr. said he was not at liberty to discuss Upchurch 's situation. Celeste Johnson, who directs SLU's academic support program, said, ''No, I don't have any comment. A student's records are confidential. He's a nice young man, but we felt it was in the best interests of Mr. Upchurch not to attend St. Louis University.'' Upchurch never was a model student. hHe recently told the Houston Post that he was concerned about being a Prop 48 casualty and not being eligible at a four-year school. That's why he spent one of his recruiting visits on San Jacinto Junior College in Houston. He said he scored 520 on the SAT when he took it in December of his senior year at Beaumont, but that his score improved to 880 when he retook the test the following spring. When interviewed in Houston by the Post-Dispatch, Upchurch said Beaumont officials read the SAT questions aloud to him. Such permission can be granted for students with a reading disability. Upchurch apparently showed severe reading problems at SLU's summer orientation program in 1987, which is mandatory for incoming freshmen with academic weaknesses. ''It allows the university's academic people to make academic judgments,'' Grawer said. '' Craig Upchurch isn't the only player we've had who went through it.A'' Upchurch did not fail to complete the course. ''There are no grades,'' Grawer said. ''As far as I know, the kid rode the bus every day to get there.'' When asked about the orientation session, Upchurch said, ''I didn't know I had to do it until after I signed.'' But according to assistant coach Lee Winfield, who was the point man on Upchurch 's recruitment, ''We told him before he signed, at his house.'' Grawer backed up Winfield, but agreed that Upchurch may have missed the message. ''We are very hesitant to tell kids about coming to the summer orientation thing, because it's a turnoff,'' Grawer said. ''Especially when you're talking about a highly recruited kid. That's just another black mark he puts beside our name. And if they're from out of town, they have to pay for their room and board themselves.'' Upchurch also said he had no idea that his admission to SLU could be revoked after summer orientation. Grawer can understand that, because he didn't know it, either. ''I got a call around Aug. 1,'' Grawer recalled. ''I don't want to mention any names, but (SLU officials) said they would like to meet with me to discuss Craig Upchurch . I certainly didn't expect to hear what I heard.'' B Grawer said he was ''presented with documented evidence that Craig Upchurch would have a very hard time if he matriculated at St. Louis U. It was broached on this level: 'We don't have the resources to help this kid,' '' Grawer said. ''My question was: 'Is he that much different from these other kids we had who went through the program?' The bottom line was: 'He is.' '' Grawer said three options were discussed: ''Give him a choice, after we explain to him and his mother, 'You're probably not going to make it.' '' ''Make the decision for him, even if it gives us a public black eye. Just say, 'Our academic people, who are the experts, say you're not going to make it.' '' ''Just take him and say, 'We're going to do the best we can with you.' '' The decision was made to go with the second option and reject Upchurch . Some schools in similar predicaments take the third option. Grawer said Duke coach Mike Krzyzewski told him that he was not familiar with Upchurch 's background, but that when Duke accepts a marginal student it keeps its commitment to him. Grawer favored the first option, letting Upchurch and his family make the decision after hearing the facts. s A player of Upchurch 's ability had no trouble finding a new school. ''But where would John Duff had gone?'' asked Grawer, referring to a Billikens reserve. ''Or what if it's Joe Blow, who happens to be a regular student and not an athlete? He's out in the cold.'' Why did Grawer and Jim Bakken, then SLU's athletic director, go along with the Upchurch verdict? ''Bakken and I were torn between doing what's right academically - we want our kids to graduate - and torn between our athleticism,'' Grawer said. ''We want to win, and this kid can help us win. I mean, I was really torn. ''We're coming off a 25-10 record. And with Craig Upchurch coming in, we're staring at the NCAA Tournament. . . . It was a traumatic time for me. ''The bottom line is, I did not want to use Craig Upchurch for a year or two. So I accepted the verdict that these academic experts had, even when I knew, like Lee (Winfield) said, it could ruin us in the Public High League as far as recruiting.'' Grawer knew the ruling would be a blow to Upchurch and his family. ''You know what a great kid he is,'' Grawer said. ''sHaving to face him and his mother, it was a tough three or four days. It was mentally devastating.'' Upchurch picked up the pieces. Hw During a previous recruiting visit to San Jacinto, Upchurch made friends with a player named Eddie Cumbo. When Cumbo went to Houston, Upchurch asked Grawer to call Foster and ask if any scholarships were available. Foster was happy to oblige. Last season, Upchurch averaged 12.1 points and 5.3 rebounds a game. This season, he is averaging a team-high 19.2 points and 6.7 rebounds, second best on the team. He is hitting more than 57 percent of his field-goal attempts for Houston, which is 14-9. He scored 34 points in a victory over Texas A&M despite a dislocated shoulder. ''He's going to be hell when he gets well,'' losing coach Shelby Metcalf said. After Upchurch scored 19 points and grabbed nine rebounds in a loss to Arkansas, winning coach Nolan Richardson compared him to Xavier McDaniel, the National Basketball Association forward out of Wichita State. ''But this guy here is a better ballplayer at the same stage,'' Richardson said. He's going to get you that 19 points and 19 rebounds. That's what I call a great basketball player.'' Upchurch , a small forward, moved to power forward after injuries depleted Houston's front line. Despite playing out of position, he is a coach's dream: Tough, unselfish and coachable. ''The difference in the great players and the also-rans is attitude and heart,'' Foster said. ''And he happens to have both. He's totally, totally, totally coachable. He's just a nice person.'' After beating a case of homesickness, Upchurch is happy to be at Houston. Before Foster took over, the school had a reputation of sending more players to the NBA than it did to graduation ceremonies. ''I'm glad that I got away from home,'' Upchurch said. ''It's a different environment to be around. In St. Louis, for Anthony Bonner and Monroe Douglass it'd be real hard for them to make it in the NBA. But a whole lot of people came out of Houston to the pros.'' Upchurch still is confused and a little bitter about his fateful stay in the summer orientation program at SLU. ''I felt it was something stupid, something crazy,'' he said. ''I asked them for a tutor when I was there, and Dr. Johnson said they didn't have that (for summer orientation).'' He said his grade-point average as a Houston freshman was 2.5 (a C-plus). ''It went down a little bit,'' said Upchurch , who has not decided on a major. ''I've got to bring it back up. I guess that's why I'm playing so well, because I concentrate on that and worry about other things later.'' Upchurch , who is shy and not talkative, finally got around to admitting that he misses SLU. ''We were going to have a real good team back in St. Louis,'' he said. ''We had all the top people back. We were going to be all together as one. It wouldn't be selfish. We would all have been as one, because we all played together at Vashon when we had a little time in the summer.'' One key question, of course, is whether Upchurch would be eligible at SLU. Another is whether such a case can happen again. ''I think we have it ironed now,'' Grawer said. ''Dr. Schroeder has been put in charge of admissions, and we are going through a more thorough evaluation of a kid long before the signing date. ''. . . You learn from your mistakes.''
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