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New APR out ..... with Kentucky & Duke in Top 10%


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Story here:

http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/12919709/duke-kentucky-basketball-teams-earn-top-marks-classroom-apr-report

Anybody know how we did? I find this them to be a useless tool as far as a basketball measurement. Interesting that none of the final four in the football made the list. Is it volume? I admit I am not a guru in how it works and would gladly accept an education here but if you get one point for each semester you are academically eligible and one point for each semester you stay in school, where does the "penalty" lie? To me, simple math, a player can gain a possible 16 points over their four-year career. Do they receive negative points for bolting early? No, I guess not because then Kentucky would likely fail. And it would seem not terribly fair to punish a school for having kids with talent that can leave early and do so to make millions. So, to me, this measure is broken and needs to either be fixed or eliminated.

Never mind that the ESPN headline is a joke too. Did they excel in the classroom? Really/ With what, sociology and PE majors? General freshmen studies? Is there any weight to a Paul Eckerle 4.0 vis-a-vis a Willie Cauley-Stein 4.0? I would think so. Seems like spin-doctoring at its best.

Also,don't know if this was said but Larrier from VCU is looking to transfer to Maryland.

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Haha what an absolute joke. Does anyone honestly believe that Kentucky basketball players have "excelled" in an academically rigorous environment? Duke is understandable, but Kentucky? Seriously?

By writing this they basically solidified why no one takes this APR garbage seriously.

The espn comments are pretty hilarious

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953 of 1126 team/schools had perfect scores....hmm perhaps the bar is set too low..

It's a system that is too easy to manipulate with sham classes and sham grades. One of the biggest frauds the NCAA has put on the general public is that the APR represents true academic progress or a true measure of how many kids will graduate.

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Ok, ACC was third in overall conferences. Hello, how does that happen if you consider the massive amount of cheating that took place at UNC? And It would be nice to know how many of UKs and Duke's Rhodes Scholars actually attended class the second semester. They were playing some serious ball thru early April. This rating is on par with the Labor Department's unemployment stats, ie to be taken with one huge grain of salt. Uh, make that a salt mine. That said, we must be doing pretty well since I can't name a hoopster who hasn't come out with a degree in the last 3-4 years. Am I wrong? As an added note, you can bet every faculty member at a lot of the bigs were put on notice after the UConn ordeal. It's pass/fail for our guys and fail ain't really an option.

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I'm a little biased :ph34r: but I think posts 16, 20 and 24 in the below thread do a good job of explaining SLU's situation when it comes to the APR and why the APR is a fraudulent measure of academic progress. The part on North Carolina in post #24 is particularly good reading.

http://www.billikens.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=24397&hl=+academic%20+progress

I still expect our single year APR to be 1000 for the 2013-14 season and our 4 year average to be around 970. The number that will come out in a year for the 2014-15 season will be dependent on whether Tanner Lancona was a good student. We shouldn't be punished for McBroom and Glaze leaving since they actually graduated!

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It's a system that is too easy to manipulate with sham classes and sham grades. One of the biggest frauds the NCAA has put on the general public is that the APR represents true academic progress or a true measure of how many kids will graduate.

Well if one and done do not count then a school like KY already has half of their team practically excluded.

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I'm a little biased :ph34r: but I think posts 16, 20 and 24 in the below thread do a good job of explaining SLU's situation when it comes to the APR and why the APR is a fraudulent measure of academic progress. The part on North Carolina in post #24 is particularly good reading.

http://www.billikens.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=24397&hl=+academic%20+progress

I still expect our single year APR to be 1000 for the 2013-14 season and our 4 year average to be around 970. The number that will come out in a year for the 2014-15 season will be dependent on whether Tanner Lancona was a good student. We shouldn't be punished for McBroom and Glaze leaving since they actually graduated!

The official 2013-14 APR report is out and as expected, SLU had a perfect 1,000 for the 2013-14 season and a 4 year average of 972. Honestly, I wish I could be excited about it, but all it means is SLU didn't have any transfers after the 2014 season.

https://web1.ncaa.org/app_data/apr2014/609_2014_apr.pdf

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