brianstl Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 It is clear to me after Rosenblum’s comments today that someone with a ton of power/pull at SLU stepped in right before the sentence was originally going to come down and got it changed. The players were moved backed into on campus housing and where even all displayed in a picture on an offical SLU account. Someone forced a change in the punishment between last Thursday and now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoon-Balls Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 Crazy if true. Edit: There's no way in hell that they could have just reversed the decision that easily. They've been deadset on punishing these guys for months, it's the only logical explanation to all of this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaLBErt Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 Yeah I thought it was interesting how this came down so suddenly after the players retweeted "#FreeTheThree". Maybe that one dude was right that kept saying if we chanted something at the game it would hurt the players? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keyser soze Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 3 minutes ago, brianstl said: It is clear to me after Rosenblum’s comments today that someone with a ton of power/pull at SLU stepped in right before the sentence was originally going to come down and got it changed. The players were moved backed into on campus housing and where even all displayed in a picture on an offical SLU account. Someone forced a change in the punishment between last Thursday and now. Brian: I will say this, I spoke with someone who would know what was going on.. the prevailing belief was the situation was much to do about nothing but the investigation was warranted based on the environment we are in today sexual harassment and assaults, it was college kids being dumb. So yes something must have changed.. curious to know how much the investigators findings differed from the hearing officers ruling.. how much did the accusers family play a role.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoon-Balls Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 Just now, keyser soze said: Brian: I will say this, I spoke with someone who would know what was going on.. the prevailing belief was the situation was much to do about nothing but the investigation was warranted based on the environment we are in today sexual harassment and assaults, it was college kids being dumb. So yes something must have changed.. curious to know how much the investigators findings differed from the hearing officers ruling.. how much did the accusers family play a role.. Unconstitutional? Where are all of the lawyers here to explain the potential implications of tampering/bias by the accuser's party Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keyser soze Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 8 minutes ago, TaLBErt said: Yeah I thought it was interesting how this came down so suddenly after the players retweeted "#FreeTheThree". Maybe that one dude was right that kept saying if we chanted something at the game it would hurt the players? I always thought that fool was someone from the university using a pen name... hopefully his IP get subpoenaed .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMM28 Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 If you give some people an inch, they think they’re a ruler. Sounds like someone gave title ix an inch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLU_Lax Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 I heard before the Richmond game from someone connected to the Board of Trustees that 3 would be suspended and 1 expelled. I even mentioned after that the 4 players (not 3) were all at risk. I don’t think the decision was changed. I think it was predetermined a long time ago. It’s a terrible shame the timing ensures the kids suffer even greater damage as they could all be in new schools by now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianstl Posted January 20, 2018 Author Share Posted January 20, 2018 2 minutes ago, SLU_Lax said: I heard before the Richmond game from someone connected to the Board of Trustees that 3 would be suspended and 1 expelled. I even mentioned after that the 4 players (not 3) were all at risk. I don’t think the decision was changed. I think it was predetermined a long time ago. It’s a terrible shame the timing ensures the kids suffer even greater damage as they could all be in new schools by now. Then why did they move the players back to on campus housing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLU_Lax Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 Because SLU is incompetent. I could definitely be wrong too as I was just hearing whispers. What I still can’t get over is the girls did WAY more than consent. According to Rosenblum, there is clear evidence the group sex was a fully premeditated decision by them. It was not a spur of the moment thing by them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigMouthBilliken Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 1 hour ago, brianstl said: It is clear to me after Rosenblum’s comments today that someone with a ton of power/pull at SLU stepped in right before the sentence was originally going to come down and got it changed. The players were moved backed into on campus housing and where even all displayed in a picture on an offical SLU account. Someone forced a change in the punishment between last Thursday and now. How do you know they were moved back to on campus housing? When did that come out? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaLBErt Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 6 minutes ago, BigMouthBilliken said: How do you know they were moved back to on campus housing? When did that come out? "Rosenblum said the campus invesetigation took longer than it should have. Federal guidelines urge schools to conclude cases within 60 days, which would have been late November in this case. He also said university processes failed his clients when they were moved out of their on-campus housing, then moved back in and eventually back out again — all while the investigation was in process." It was in the Post article. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianstl Posted January 20, 2018 Author Share Posted January 20, 2018 7 minutes ago, BigMouthBilliken said: How do you know they were moved back to on campus housing? When did that come out? Rosenblum stated they were moved bac onto campus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billikenbill Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 21 minutes ago, SLU_Lax said: I heard before the Richmond game from someone connected to the Board of Trustees that 3 would be suspended and 1 expelled. I even mentioned after that the 4 players (not 3) were all at risk. I don’t think the decision was changed. I think it was predetermined a long time ago. It’s a terrible shame the timing ensures the kids suffer even greater damage as they could all be in new schools by now. This makes sense. Coach Ford telegraphed this after the Richmond game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUBillsFan Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 15 minutes ago, billikenbill said: This makes sense. Coach Ford telegraphed this after the Richmond game. If this is true, it makes the past 2 games from Goodwin even more incredible. Nearly putting up 2 triple doubles in a row with this hanging over his head knowing a suspension would be coming down would be amazing focus / determination. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmbilliken Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 The prior knowledge of the decision theory doesn't make sense. If they knew this punishment was coming, they all would have transferred. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLU_Lax Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 5 minutes ago, kmbilliken said: The prior knowledge of the decision theory doesn't make sense. If they knew this punishment was coming, they all would have transferred. They need to be kicked out in order to have a chance to play immediately next year at their new school. I also cannot swear it’s true. I just heard it and it being accurate on one expulsion and that all 4 would be punished increased its credibility to me in hindsight. I mostly dismissed it because of it mentioning 4 players being harshly punished. Either way, it hardly matters now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianstl Posted January 20, 2018 Author Share Posted January 20, 2018 We need to know who decided to appoint Weathers and who else was pushing for her to get the case Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
615Billiken Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 Just now, brianstl said: We need to know who decided to appoint Weathers and who else was pushing for her to get the case It appears from reading her brief professional bio (someone posted it on another thread) that she is the default go to person for this type of case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianstl Posted January 20, 2018 Author Share Posted January 20, 2018 Just now, 615Billiken said: It appears from reading her brief professional bio (someone posted it on another thread) that she is the default go to person for this type of case. They have multiple people who act as hearing officers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoon-Balls Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 From what I heard a professor was appointed as the hearing officer for a case with a SLU swimmer. Weathers must be the go to for larger cases like this. If so, it is an absolute travesty. Why is there not a committee with multiple people instead of this one, obviously biased, feminist? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRN Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 1 hour ago, Spoon-Balls said: From what I heard a professor was appointed as the hearing officer for a case with a SLU swimmer. Weathers must be the go to for larger cases like this. If so, it is an absolute travesty. Why is there not a committee with multiple people instead of this one, obviously biased, feminist? It gives Rosenblum a good argument to say the process was tainted. That can be argued in the appeal process. Leave it to SLU’s Keystone Cops to flub it. GoBills73 likes this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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