billikenfan05 Posted October 10, 2017 Share Posted October 10, 2017 Just now, brianstl said: I wouldn't try to read anything into a tweet from Goodwin. He has been posting cyptic stuff for over a year. Most of the time it never is what you think it is. 18 year olds. Looking back at the cryptic I’d post on Facebook at 18 my god. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NH Posted October 10, 2017 Share Posted October 10, 2017 21 minutes ago, brianstl said: I wouldn't try to read anything into a tweet from Goodwin. He has been posting cyptic stuff for over a year. Most of the time it never is what you think it is. You're 100% right but I can't stop my stupid brain from trying to understand it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billikenfan05 Posted October 10, 2017 Share Posted October 10, 2017 5 minutes ago, NH said: You're 100% right but I can't stop my stupid brain from trying to understand it. I don’t think it pertains to this issue but it shouldn’t be taken lightly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianstl Posted October 10, 2017 Share Posted October 10, 2017 2 minutes ago, billikenfan05 said: I don’t think it pertains to this issue but it shouldn’t be taken lightly. Probably nothing, but I hope someone checks in on him tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattyMo213 Posted October 10, 2017 Share Posted October 10, 2017 15 minutes ago, brianstl said: Probably nothing, but I hope someone checks in on him tonight. Have him watch the new Star Wars trailer if he's feeling down. Got me pumped up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiseAndGrind Posted October 10, 2017 Share Posted October 10, 2017 7 hours ago, brianstl said: Probably nothing, but I hope someone checks in on him tonight. Whatever it referenced - it was deleted. MattyMo213 likes this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLU_Lax Posted October 10, 2017 Share Posted October 10, 2017 10 hours ago, dlarry said: Cussamano just had some good news on channel 5 news. He said interim suspensions have been lifted and all 4 players are attending class and practicing. He said Roosenbloom told him he expects charges to be dropped soon. I was unaware they were suspended but this is good news. So can anyone confirm this? I am excited, but not ready to accept this is 100% accurate yet. The mention of "charges to be dropped soon" is awkward as there were no charges filed. While I understand what is being said, it makes me hesitate. The fact that interim suspensions may have been in place (showing the school took it very seriously and acted quickly - as they should) as well as them being dropped (meaning the school has seen enough to move on) is potentially the biggest deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiseAndGrind Posted October 10, 2017 Share Posted October 10, 2017 10 minutes ago, SLU_Lax said: So can anyone confirm this? I am excited, but not ready to accept this is 100% accurate yet. The mention of "charges to be dropped soon" is awkward as there were no charges filed. While I understand what is being said, it makes me hesitate. The fact that interim suspensions may have been in place (showing the school took it very seriously and acted quickly - as they should) as well as them being dropped (meaning the school has seen enough to move on) is potentially the biggest deal. Yeah, this kind of seems like a big deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billikenfan05 Posted October 10, 2017 Share Posted October 10, 2017 18 minutes ago, SLU_Lax said: So can anyone confirm this? I am excited, but not ready to accept this is 100% accurate yet. The mention of "charges to be dropped soon" is awkward as there were no charges filed. While I understand what is being said, it makes me hesitate. The fact that interim suspensions may have been in place (showing the school took it very seriously and acted quickly - as they should) as well as them being dropped (meaning the school has seen enough to move on) is potentially the biggest deal. I don’t think you can take anything away from it yet. I don’t think they were under suspension by order of the school. Probably suspended by Ford. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juniorbill76 Posted October 10, 2017 Share Posted October 10, 2017 3 minutes ago, billikenfan05 said: I don’t think you can take anything away from it yet. I don’t think they were under suspension by order of the school. Probably suspended by Ford. Ford is an agent of the school. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billikenfan05 Posted October 10, 2017 Share Posted October 10, 2017 1 minute ago, juniorbill76 said: Ford is an agent of the school. Yes however Ford can independently level a suspension. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kshoe Posted October 10, 2017 Share Posted October 10, 2017 I'm wary of trying to parse every word that Frank relays in a 20 second bit on the 10 o'clock news. 1) I don't think he gives all that much thought into the exact context of what he says and 2) we are currently trying to parse words on a single interpretation of what Frank said. In general it was good news though... TheChosenOne likes this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ACE Posted October 10, 2017 Share Posted October 10, 2017 8 minutes ago, kshoe said: I'm wary of trying to parse every word that Frank relays in a 20 second bit on the 10 o'clock news. 1) I don't think he gives all that much thought into the exact context of what he says and 2) we are currently trying to parse words on a single interpretation of what Frank said. In general it was good news though... Also, Frank's reports haven't always been accurate. Hoping for something a little more official soon to confirm this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheChosenOne Posted October 10, 2017 Share Posted October 10, 2017 16 minutes ago, kshoe said: I'm wary of trying to parse every word that Frank relays in a 20 second bit on the 10 o'clock news. 1) I don't think he gives all that much thought into the exact context of what he says and 2) we are currently trying to parse words on a single interpretation of what Frank said. In general it was good news though... Frank's comments seem to relate more to the legal aspect of the situation (so good news that it sounds like there is nothing there), but if it was meant to apply to the University conduct board or whatever you call it and the "victims" have decided against moving forward there or the University has, that would be big time news. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duff Man Posted October 10, 2017 Share Posted October 10, 2017 Frank is parroting the talking points of the defense attorney of the players. Rosenblum knows how to use the media to paint his own narrative in the court of public opinion in a way that won't be disputed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slu72 Posted October 10, 2017 Share Posted October 10, 2017 22 minutes ago, TheChosenOne said: Frank's comments seem to relate more to the legal aspect of the situation (so good news that it sounds like there is nothing there), but if it was meant to apply to the University conduct board or whatever you call it and the "victims" have decided against moving forward there or the University has, that would be big time news. This. Although, from everything we know they had never been charged with anything by the authorities. I guess you could read a suspension as being "charged" by the school. If it was totally consensual followed up by false charges, time to put this to rest. Let Travis punish them with violating team rules. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NextYearBill Posted October 10, 2017 Share Posted October 10, 2017 run those boys till they puke, then run them again.... and then again. Lets play ball CBFan, BigMouthBilliken and MattyMo213 like this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slufan13 Posted October 10, 2017 Share Posted October 10, 2017 The comment about interim suspensions being lifted kind of ties in with some social media activity I saw on Sunday. Being vague as to not outwardly bring up specific names Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billikens747 Posted October 10, 2017 Share Posted October 10, 2017 5 minutes ago, slufan13 said: The comment about interim suspensions being lifted kind of ties in with some social media activity I saw on Sunday. Being vague as to not outwardly bring up specific names I noticed something similar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLURadioBoy Posted October 10, 2017 Share Posted October 10, 2017 Frank just reiterated on his show that he talked to Rosenblum last night and the suspensions have been lifted. They are very confident that charges will not be filed against the players. They are also working with the university (Title IX) with their investigation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kshoe Posted October 10, 2017 Share Posted October 10, 2017 4 minutes ago, SLURadioBoy said: Frank just reiterated on his show that he talked to Rosenblum last night and the suspensions have been lifted. They are very confident that charges will not be filed against the players. They are also working with the university (Title IX) with their investigation. The lifting of suspensions is important but the Title IX part is the key. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierPal Posted October 10, 2017 Share Posted October 10, 2017 Heard the same. There is a difference between charges not being filed and charges being dropped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old guy Posted October 10, 2017 Share Posted October 10, 2017 42 minutes ago, slu72 said: This. Although, from everything we know they had never been charged with anything by the authorities. I guess you could read a suspension as being "charged" by the school. If it was totally consensual followed up by false charges, time to put this to rest. Let Travis punish them with violating team rules. Just to clarify this point, a person may be accused and under investigation (sometimes for a long time) but will not be charged for anything until there is enough evidence to warrant a formal charge which will then go to trial, or not depending on how the charged person pleads. The fact that they are not charged so far means, at this time, that the investigation is still going on. The defense lawyers, as has been said, will inject their own statements (not official statements) into the media claiming that there are no charges. This is correct as it goes, but does not mean that the accused will not be charged ultimately. It is still too early to reach conclusions. If you cannot control your anxiety about this proceeding with all it twists and turns please call your doctor and get a Valium prescription. Official statements will be forthcoming, they will come when they come, not before. Cusumano and his sources have nothing to do with the official statement that will be forthcoming sometime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teamarete Posted October 10, 2017 Share Posted October 10, 2017 4 minutes ago, Old guy said: The fact that they are not charged so far means, at this time, that the investigation is still going on. Could also mean the case has been dropped or in stages of being dropped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slu72 Posted October 10, 2017 Share Posted October 10, 2017 So far we don't know what the hell's happened regarding charges filed and/or later dropped. I doubt Frank does either. If the investigation is ongoing and results in charges being filed, it's pretty much game over and playing basketball will be the least of their concerns. Recall in '11, the players involved were never charged criminally, but the school determined rules of student conduct were violated that required a "trial" which eventually resulted in the suspensions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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