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that wont be decided until after his senior year whether he is granted an additonal year of eligibility.  

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5 hours ago, WVBilliken said:

Have not heard if Bishop was granted a redshirt year due to his injury last year.  Has the decision been made by the NCAA yet?  Is Bishop a junior or redshirt sophomore next year?

What Roy said, and Im pretty sure he will be granted.  Isnt that the reason he didnt play the last like 6 or 7 games?

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14 minutes ago, wgstl said:

What Roy said, and Im pretty sure he will be granted.  Isnt that the reason he didnt play the last like 6 or 7 games?

can you cite an example of a player that played that many games and indeed was granted a 5th year?   I don't know of any and in fact there are more examples of players that only played like a game or two and then were denied the medical red shirt season. 

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Assume Roy is right.  Odd that the NCAA would make Bishop wait 2 years to find out if he gets the redshirt.  There are many reasons why the student athlete would like to have this information sooner rather than waiting 2 years to find out.............but who ever said the NCAA would do anything that would actually help the student athlete.

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2 hours ago, billiken_roy said:

can you cite an example of a player that played that many games and indeed was granted a 5th year?   I don't know of any and in fact there are more examples of players that only played like a game or two and then were denied the medical red shirt season. 

I dont have any examples, but I thought the rule was if the player plays in less than 30% of the games, and doesnt return after injury,they should be good to go to get it. 

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1 minute ago, wgstl said:

I dont have any examples, but I thought the rule was if the player plays in less than 30% of the games, and doesnt return after injury,they should be good to go to get it. 

That's the qualification but the NCAA still decides on a case to case basis. It's the typical corruption we have all come to expect from the NCAA. 

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2 minutes ago, wgstl said:

I dont have any examples, but I thought the rule was if the player plays in less than 30% of the games, and doesnt return after injury,they should be good to go to get it. 

we have the example of the kid that played like 2 games for us then transferred to valpo and then valpo tried to get the medical redshirt and was denied.   like I said, I don't know of any players that played and was granted the extra year.   I am sure there are examples, but I don't know of any.

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2 minutes ago, billiken_roy said:

we have the example of the kid that played like 2 games for us then transferred to valpo and then valpo tried to get the medical redshirt and was denied.   like I said, I don't know of any players that played and was granted the extra year.   I am sure there are examples, but I don't know of any.

I think the problem with Carter is that he was faking the severity of the injury in order to get the redshirt. SLU wasn't buying it. Carter would have been better off finishing his freshman season at SLU rather than transferring at semester.

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15 minutes ago, billiken_roy said:

we have the example of the kid that played like 2 games for us then transferred to valpo and then valpo tried to get the medical redshirt and was denied.   like I said, I don't know of any players that played and was granted the extra year.   I am sure there are examples, but I don't know of any.

Carter's problem was that he played, got hurt, then played again (21 minutes) and then shortly thereafter transferred. Hard to claim you were injured and couldn't finish the season when you had just played in a game before deciding to transfer.

 

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/player/gamelog/_/id/61186/year/2013/keith-carter

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13 hours ago, WVBilliken said:

Have not heard if Bishop was granted a redshirt year due to his injury last year.  Has the decision been made by the NCAA yet?  Is Bishop a junior or redshirt sophomore next year?

Not sure if this has been said yet, but in Ford's interview on 101.1 today he mentioned Bishop using a redshirt year last year.  So I'm guessing it's a for sure thing?

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23 hours ago, TFord and TRavs said:

Do we want Bishop for another 3 years though? And would Bishop even stay if he is? 

Of course we want the OPTION for Bishop to have a third year. If he's playing well and is a valuable member of the team we get a 5th year player familiar with the system, coach, etc. If Bishop gets stuck on the bench these next two years, then you let him walk away as a graduate transfer 5th year and he plays immediately elsewhere. It's a classic win-win situation.

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19 hours ago, RiseOfTheBillikens said:

Not sure if this has been said yet, but in Ford's interview on 101.1 today he mentioned Bishop using a redshirt year last year.  So I'm guessing it's a for sure thing?

I heard the interview also and heard Coach say Bishop redshirted last season. I'm not sure if that was a slip of tongue or what.  I thought that a medical hardship wasn't granted until the athletes regular 4 years are used up.  You can't straight redshirt after playing 9 games. Perhaps Coach believes there will be no issue with the medical hardship waiver being granted.

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Medical redshirt is usually a slam dunk unless there is a weird circumstance like Carter had - playing in a game randomly right before transfer - or a guy exhausting the 5 year clock because of injury. 

Bishop shouldn't have a problem at all because he played the first 9 games, was injured, and did not return. If he transferred out before he graduates from SLU, he would run into a problem of trying to play 4 seasons in 5 years though. He needs to stick another 2 years, graduate, and then has options. 

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