Taj79 Posted May 3, 2017 Share Posted May 3, 2017 I read with interest the article on the main board from A10 talk. Anybody would have to be pleased to see Butler on their schedule as we are. But do the other two matchups pale in comparison for the rets of you? I mean Vermont and St. peter's as similar to Butler when discussing Richmond and La Salle? I don't see it. We played Vermont in lie 14-15 an dit was no big deal. Why now? And St. peters? C'mon man! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kwyjibo Posted May 3, 2017 Share Posted May 3, 2017 Vermont will have a very good record and will be a good team (as long as Trae Bell-Haynes is back). It was a very smart scheduling move back then and is even more so next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
majerus mojo Posted May 3, 2017 Share Posted May 3, 2017 1 hour ago, kwyjibo said: Vermont will have a very good record and will be a good team (as long as Trae Bell-Haynes is back). It was a very smart scheduling move back then and is even more so next year. I don't know who they've lost (if anyone), but they won 21 straight heading into the NCAA tournament, and gave Purdue a pretty good run before falling 80-70, as a 13-seed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willie Posted May 3, 2017 Share Posted May 3, 2017 1 hour ago, Taj79 said: I read with interest the article on the main board from A10 talk. Anybody would have to be pleased to see Butler on their schedule as we are. But do the other two matchups pale in comparison for the rets of you? I mean Vermont and St. peter's as similar to Butler when discussing Richmond and La Salle? I don't see it. We played Vermont in lie 14-15 an dit was no big deal. Why now? And St. peters? C'mon man! Is Ron Dabney still playing for St. Peters? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoop Posted May 3, 2017 Share Posted May 3, 2017 Some of those A10 talk articles sound like they are written by high school kids. Brutal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted May 4, 2017 Share Posted May 4, 2017 11 hours ago, Taj79 said: I read with interest the article on the main board from A10 talk. Anybody would have to be pleased to see Butler on their schedule as we are. But do the other two matchups pale in comparison for the rets of you? I mean Vermont and St. peter's as similar to Butler when discussing Richmond and La Salle? I don't see it. We played Vermont in lie 14-15 an dit was no big deal. Why now? And St. peters? C'mon man! These teams aren't Butler, but neither are they cream puffs. St. Peters finished with a 23-13 record and an overall rating of B-. Had they played in the A-10 they would have finished 5th.... And Vermont finished at 28-6 with a grade of B+...good enough to receive an at large bid had they not received the auto bid.to the tourney. Had Vermont been in the A-10 they would have finished 4th. They had the longest winning streak in Div 1 this season (21 games) before Purdue beat them in the tourney. And the Boilermakers struggled against them We just came off of a D rated season. These 2 teams are probable thinking ...adding the Billikens doesn't help our schedule. I will say this ....if we can get to the level of a Vermont next year...I will be pleased. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old guy Posted May 4, 2017 Share Posted May 4, 2017 I would think that any games we get against B- level teams for this year's season will be thinking more about the projected strength of our team, based upon recruit levels, than upon our performance last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheA_Bomb Posted May 4, 2017 Share Posted May 4, 2017 That piece was weak but the dude is probably unpaid so I can't be mad at em'. SLU's tourney in NY is decent Providence, VT and UW. Wish I could go to that one. Gotta be some other good Non-Con games in the A10 right besides Vermont and St. Peter's? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierPal Posted May 4, 2017 Share Posted May 4, 2017 3 hours ago, TheA_Bomb said: SLU's tourney in NY is decent Providence, VT and UW. Wish I could go to that one. Gotta be some other good Non-Con games in the A10 right besides Vermont and St. Peter's? We will also play two of the following: Belmont, Detroit Mercy, Houston Baptist, and Seattle in the 'home games' of the 2K Classic. Our early OOC schedule is fairly complete, with the NYC games Nov 16-17. Putting the two prelim games ahead of these dates, that likely leaves at the most one other game before the prelim tourney games. Butler is Dec 2, so room for 2 or 3 games after the tourney before the Bulldogs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bonwich Posted May 4, 2017 Share Posted May 4, 2017 3 hours ago, HoosierPal said: We will also play two of the following: Belmont, Detroit Mercy, Houston Baptist, and Seattle in the 'home games' of the 2K Classic. Our early OOC schedule is fairly complete, with the NYC games Nov 16-17. Putting the two prelim games ahead of these dates, that likely leaves at the most one other game before the prelim tourney games. Butler is Dec 2, so room for 2 or 3 games after the tourney before the Bulldogs. Welcome back Rockhurst! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted May 4, 2017 Share Posted May 4, 2017 4 hours ago, HoosierPal said: We will also play two of the following: Belmont, Detroit Mercy, Houston Baptist, and Seattle in the 'home games' of the 2K Classic. Our early OOC schedule is fairly complete, with the NYC games Nov 16-17. Putting the two prelim games ahead of these dates, that likely leaves at the most one other game before the prelim tourney games. Butler is Dec 2, so room for 2 or 3 games after the tourney before the Bulldogs. Belmont ....B Hou Bap.....D Det.............D- Seattle.......D- So it looks like we should have an easy game and a tough one (Belmont) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slu72 fan Posted May 4, 2017 Share Posted May 4, 2017 1 hour ago, bonwich said: Welcome back Rockhurst! Not likely, I think one less home game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierPal Posted May 5, 2017 Share Posted May 5, 2017 14 hours ago, The Wiz said: Belmont ....B Hou Bap.....D Det.............D- Seattle.......D- So it looks like we should have an easy game and a tough one (Belmont) Logic (geography) says we should play Belmont and Detroit, so that means we will likely get Houston B and Seattle. Pure guesswork by me, we get Belmont and Seattle, UW gets the same, and Providence and VT get Detroit and HoustonB. But Providence and VT likely are politicing for Belmont too, and A10 is trumped by BE and ACC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianstl Posted May 5, 2017 Share Posted May 5, 2017 8 minutes ago, HoosierPal said: Logic (geography) says we should play Belmont and Detroit, so that means we will likely get Houston B and Seattle. Pure guesswork by me, we get Belmont and Seattle, UW gets the same, and Providence and VT get Detroit and HoustonB. But Providence and VT likely are politicing for Belmont too, and A10 is trumped by BE and ACC. Providence and VT have more to lose than gain playing a team like Belmont. My guess is they are not lobbying for Belmont. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierPal Posted May 5, 2017 Share Posted May 5, 2017 1 hour ago, brianstl said: Providence and VT have more to lose than gain playing a team like Belmont. My guess is they are not lobbying for Belmont. My guess is that Seattle and Houston Baptist may be RPI killers and hence the Friars and Hokies want to avoid. Come tourney time, those issues raise in importance. We shall see. Who knows, maybe the Tourney organizers place names in a hat and draw them out. We will find out in due time. EDIT: I looked up this past season's RPI's, True they are only a data point that may or may not be reflective of next season's team (such as our RPI for last season). Anyway Belmont was 88, HB 185, Seattle 272 and Detroit 289. Let's get a Baptist convention going her in the Lou. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianstl Posted May 5, 2017 Share Posted May 5, 2017 2 hours ago, HoosierPal said: My guess is that Seattle and Houston Baptist may be RPI killers and hence the Friars and Hokies want to avoid. Come tourney time, those issues raise in importance. We shall see. Who knows, maybe the Tourney organizers place names in a hat and draw them out. We will find out in due time. EDIT: I looked up this past season's RPI's, True they are only a data point that may or may not be reflective of next season's team (such as our RPI for last season). Anyway Belmont was 88, HB 185, Seattle 272 and Detroit 289. Let's get a Baptist convention going her in the Lou. I understand your point on the RPI, but an opponent having a bad RPI doesn't matter as much when you play 18 games in the Big East or the ACC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierPal Posted May 5, 2017 Share Posted May 5, 2017 Just now, brianstl said: I understand your point on the RPI, but an opponent having a bad RPI doesn't matter as much when you play 18 games in the Big East or the ACC. Certainly the BE has higher RPI teams than the A10, but wasn't Providence one of the last four in this past March? Substitute a 88 RPI W with a 289 RPI win and maybe they are first out. Never know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted May 5, 2017 Share Posted May 5, 2017 3 hours ago, HoosierPal said: Certainly the BE has higher RPI teams than the A10, but wasn't Providence one of the last four in this past March? Substitute a 88 RPI W with a 289 RPI win and maybe they are first out. Never know. Big East = A A-10 = B Prov = B+ ..... a 4th place finish in the A-10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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