Doubleday Posted April 14, 2017 Author Share Posted April 14, 2017 16 minutes ago, billikenfan05 said: Link to auction? I've looked everywhere and it appears that you have to have a double secret super donor link. Another fail from the marketing department I've been told by guys at Chaifetz that marketing is done by students and that they are learning that's why it's so hit and miss. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMM28 Posted April 14, 2017 Share Posted April 14, 2017 51 minutes ago, billikenfan05 said: Link to auction? I've looked everywhere and it appears that you have to have a double secret super donor link. Another fail from the marketing department https://www.32auctions.com/GolfClassicAuction2017 you have to go to the Billikens club then the golf outing option from the drop down menu, not the big picture link on the main page (at least via mobile site), then scroll down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slu72 fan Posted April 14, 2017 Share Posted April 14, 2017 1 hour ago, billikenfan05 said: Link to auction? I've looked everywhere and it appears that you have to have a double secret super donor link. Another fail from the marketing department It was e-mailed to all season ticket holders and members of the Billiken Club Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianstl Posted April 14, 2017 Share Posted April 14, 2017 They need to have a program to update and improve the sports facilities. Call it Billiken 2025 or something like that. Present designs and fund raising goals for each facility. It is easier to raise money when you present a vision of what can be accomplished with a donation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiseAndGrind Posted April 14, 2017 Share Posted April 14, 2017 12 minutes ago, brianstl said: They need to have a program to update and improve the sports facilities. Call it Billiken 2025 or something like that. Present designs and fund raising goals for each facility. It is easier to raise money when you present a vision of what can be accomplished with a donation. Exactly. I'm a season ticket holder and member of the Billiken Club. I've never been made aware of a fundraising effort beyond a general solicitation. I get 72 Fan's point, but slu struggles to even hit singles in the marketing department. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old guy Posted April 14, 2017 Share Posted April 14, 2017 I do not know if you are aware that the SLU Law School went this route with architectural drawings, and solicitation of donors. Then Biondi was given an empty building by someone and moved the Law school there. This did not made the donors happy, they were expecting something else. 15 minutes ago, brianstl said: They need to have a program to update and improve the sports facilities. Call it Billiken 2025 or something like that. Present designs and fund raising goals for each facility. It is easier to raise money when you present a vision of what can be accomplished with a donation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
majerus mojo Posted April 14, 2017 Share Posted April 14, 2017 2 hours ago, Doubleday said: I've been told by guys at Chaifetz that marketing is done by students and that they are learning that's why it's so hit and miss. I would love to hear more about this. Seriously? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bonwich Posted April 14, 2017 Share Posted April 14, 2017 1 hour ago, Old guy said: I do not know if you are aware that the SLU Law School went this route with architectural drawings, and solicitation of donors. Then Biondi was given an empty building by someone and moved the Law school there. This did not made the donors happy, they were expecting something else. "Someone" was Joe Scott, one of the richest people in St. Louis that no one had ever heard of. He owns, among other things, Crown Valley Winery down by Ste. Genevieve, as well as about 10% of Florida. (You think I'm exaggerating? Well, yeah, a little -- but you wouldn't believe how much land he owns.) That whole thing could have been a win-win, but the all-knowing St. Larry did things so well by doing them his way or the highway, which ironically is where he ended up. And all kinds of multimillion-dollar donors got their noses out of joint, and the law school went through all kinds of bedlam. But hey, Biondi made such tremendous improvements, so he for quite a while (and still, from some) he got a pass for being a first-class jerk to the little people (and a bunch of big people as well). Luckily, Father Macchiavelli ain't in charge any more if the athletic department would like to try a strategic, well-planned approach like showing a vision, setting goals and raising money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doubleday Posted April 14, 2017 Author Share Posted April 14, 2017 29 minutes ago, majerus mojo said: I would love to hear more about this. Seriously? They have a program where they let students get real experience in marketing. I think the marketing is pretty decent all things considered. The guys that told me that worked doing events and marketing through their time at SLU. Said it was a great experience. Have to learn somewhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billikenfan05 Posted April 14, 2017 Share Posted April 14, 2017 22 minutes ago, Doubleday said: They have a program where they let students get real experience in marketing. I think the marketing is pretty decent all things considered. The guys that told me that worked doing events and marketing through their time at SLU. Said it was a great experience. Have to learn somewhere. Cheap bastards. The marketing director is a total cuck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
majerus mojo Posted April 14, 2017 Share Posted April 14, 2017 27 minutes ago, Doubleday said: They have a program where they let students get real experience in marketing. I think the marketing is pretty decent all things considered. The guys that told me that worked doing events and marketing through their time at SLU. Said it was a great experience. Have to learn somewhere. I'm sure it's a solid program, but it really needs to be done by professionals at this level, especially when you've seen the things put out over the last couple years. I'd be a little disappointed to learn that's how things are taken care of these days. The work speaks for itself Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old guy Posted April 14, 2017 Share Posted April 14, 2017 Nothing wrong with having marketing students go through a program where they do actual marketing as part of their education. This is fine. The thing that is wrong is to assume that this program is the basis for all marketing (including fundraising) that is done by the University. This is a truly myopic view, they have professionals do the heavy lifting. You may have as bad an opinion about what these marketing professionals are doing but they have professionals doing it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old guy Posted April 14, 2017 Share Posted April 14, 2017 8 hours ago, bonwich said: "Someone" was Joe Scott, one of the richest people in St. Louis that no one had ever heard of. He owns, among other things, Crown Valley Winery down by Ste. Genevieve, as well as about 10% of Florida. (You think I'm exaggerating? Well, yeah, a little -- but you wouldn't believe how much land he owns.) That whole thing could have been a win-win, but the all-knowing St. Larry did things so well by doing them his way or the highway, which ironically is where he ended up. And all kinds of multimillion-dollar donors got their noses out of joint, and the law school went through all kinds of bedlam. But hey, Biondi made such tremendous improvements, so he for quite a while (and still, from some) he got a pass for being a first-class jerk to the little people (and a bunch of big people as well). Luckily, Father Macchiavelli ain't in charge any more if the athletic department would like to try a strategic, well-planned approach like showing a vision, setting goals and raising money. Yes, fully agree, you do not raise millions upon millions of dollars (I am talking about the needs of the University not the Athletic Dept. alone) by doing what Biondi did. Oh, I do believe how much money Joe Scott has. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
majerus mojo Posted April 14, 2017 Share Posted April 14, 2017 9 minutes ago, Old guy said: Nothing wrong with having marketing students go through a program where they do actual marketing as part of their education. This is fine. The thing that is wrong is to assume that this program is the basis for all marketing (including fundraising) that is done by the University. This is a truly myopic view, they have professionals do the heavy lifting. You may have as bad an opinion about what these marketing professionals are doing but they have professionals doing it. Don't think anyone would make that assumption, and by all means let the students knock themselves out, but when you hear students are involved in the marketing and think, "well that would make sense since the work is often riddled with errors" there's an issue somewhere. Perhaps not as many professionals as needed, or they just stink at proofreading Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prebilliken Posted April 14, 2017 Share Posted April 14, 2017 13 hours ago, johnbj14 said: For an example of how to properly build a stadium around a decent field, see UIC and what they did. Had a set-up pretty similar to SLU and then built a modest stadium around it. Does it improve attendance? Maybe. Does it provide a nice environment for fans and scouts? Absolutely. Here is a good angle of the field and stands. Nothing super flashy, just better than what was there before. http://www.terraengineering.com/wp-content/uploads/UIC-Curtis-Granderson-Stadium_Chicago-Illinois_TERRA-Engineering_traffic-engineering.jpg Or an example I love. ND's Frank Eck Stadium, cost of construction- $5.2MM. And I don't think you need something this large either. I'm just looking for a grandstand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Box and Won Posted April 14, 2017 Share Posted April 14, 2017 12 hours ago, brianstl said: They need to have a program to update and improve the sports facilities. Call it Billiken 2025 or something like that. Present designs and fund raising goals for each facility. It is easier to raise money when you present a vision of what can be accomplished with a donation. Yesssssss. It's also my understanding that we do not fund our athletic scholarships to the NCAA maximum. Fundraising to accomplish that would be nice too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prebilliken Posted April 14, 2017 Share Posted April 14, 2017 15 minutes ago, Box and Won said: Yesssssss. It's also my understanding that we do not fund our athletic scholarships to the NCAA maximum. Fundraising to accomplish that would be nice too. It was also a little disappointing to not see a campaign for SLU's bicentennial for our general fundraising. "The Campaign for SLU 200." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FromDaEastSide Posted April 14, 2017 Share Posted April 14, 2017 11 hours ago, Doubleday said: They have a program where they let students get real experience in marketing. I think the marketing is pretty decent all things considered. The guys that told me that worked doing events and marketing through their time at SLU. Said it was a great experience. Have to learn somewhere. I saw the same student/marketing intern eating nachos at his table on the concourse during a basketball game multiple times last season. Love the real world experience the interns get, but you got to have some guidance from above. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMM28 Posted April 14, 2017 Share Posted April 14, 2017 A capital campaign takes a lot of planning and foresight. Neither skills are possessed by anyone in the athletic department administration. As box said, fully funding the current sports should be priority #1. Priority #2 should be upgrading the baseball/softball areas, as the "upgrades" they made are truly pathetic. Baseball will never be CWS-level successful without some sort of upgrade in facilities. The program is already hamstrung by having piss poor weather to deal with in the early spring. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiseAndGrind Posted April 14, 2017 Share Posted April 14, 2017 How many people on this board have been approached and asked to donate to a specific capital campaign? No one? Oh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billikenfan05 Posted April 14, 2017 Share Posted April 14, 2017 7 minutes ago, RiseAndGrind said: How many people on this board have been approached and asked to donate to a specific capital campaign? No one? Oh. Exactly. I would get behind a targeted campaign. I just don't feel that donating to athletics general athletics is a worthwhile use of what little money I could spare. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheeseman Posted April 14, 2017 Share Posted April 14, 2017 3 hours ago, billikenfan05 said: Exactly. I would get behind a targeted campaign. I just don't feel that donating to athletics general athletics is a worthwhile use of what little money I could spare. Actually I agree with you. What they really need is a long term planning process that is well articulated and available for all to see and buy into. If they have one already I haven't seen it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
majerus mojo Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 Not sure where to slot this, but SLU is getting a little over $270K from the NCAA, to be used towards “the direct benefit of the student-athlete and their academic success, life skills, career success, health and safety and student-athlete focused diversity and inclusion initiatives" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Littlebill Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 On 4/14/2017 at 8:02 AM, prebilliken said: Or an example I love. ND's Frank Eck Stadium, cost of construction- $5.2MM. And I don't think you need something this large either. I'm just looking for a grandstand. Played on Evansville's stadium in high school - they had something similar http://www.gopurpleaces.com/sports/2007/10/22/BB_1022072024.aspx?path=baseball Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoop Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 Is there beer sales at Bills Baseball games? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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