bauman Posted March 22, 2017 Share Posted March 22, 2017 16 hours ago, majerus mojo said: I love the idea that Ford 'redshirted' Bishop during this down year in hopes of using his 3 years on quality teams... if that's how it turns out. He'd have to have liked what he saw in practice ....and on the court. Remember when JB went down, he was the leading scorer on the team and doing a credible job as the starting PG on a team with a new HC and new system. I will be very glad if he has decided to stay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JettFlight5 Posted March 22, 2017 Share Posted March 22, 2017 10 minutes ago, Littlebill said: I did too and was an athlete there when we moved from NAIA to D2. There was a noticeable difference in the lowest common denominator there - you could really tell with the more major sports - baseball, football, basketball oh, and Go #Beercats You must have just missed me then. I was with the baseball team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIG BILL FAN Posted March 22, 2017 Share Posted March 22, 2017 19 hours ago, Glorydays2013 said: I think he will absolutley be a star and I wish him well. This is the best thing for him since he won't play with Fords recruits. Also whoever said we are in the A10... think bigger. We have a B12 coach who recruits at a B12 level. From now on there will be no 2* recruits or non top 150 guys A star??? Maybe at the division 2 level. Zeke has average athleticism,is physically weak and has average ball skills. For him to contribute he would have to be an outstanding shooter, something he showed only on rare occasions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billikenfan05 Posted March 22, 2017 Share Posted March 22, 2017 19 hours ago, Glorydays2013 said: Honestly what bugs me is your obsession with Zeke. No one in a P5 school would fawn over a bench freshmen on a 270 ken Pom team like you guys do. Set your sights higher. He will easily be over recruited by Ford. Be ready for what we see in the future because it is bright. 19 hours ago, Glorydays2013 said: I think he will absolutley be a star and I wish him well. This is the best thing for him since he won't play with Fords recruits. Also whoever said we are in the A10... think bigger. We have a B12 coach who recruits at a B12 level. From now on there will be no 2* recruits or non top 150 guys Makes you go hmm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
majerus mojo Posted March 22, 2017 Share Posted March 22, 2017 7 minutes ago, billikenfan05 said: Makes you go hmm He's going to quote you and say he meant at a lower level. Saved you a post glorydays! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Littlebill Posted March 22, 2017 Share Posted March 22, 2017 16 minutes ago, JettFlight5 said: You must have just missed me then. I was with the baseball team. Yep graduated in '15 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STL Hoops Insider Posted March 22, 2017 Share Posted March 22, 2017 1 hour ago, DirtyRican said: I wish someone told me this while I was playing baseball at SLU! I had to change majors 2 times and take summer classes to graduate in 4 years. My parents weren't paying for 4.5 year education for me and missing practically every Spring semester due to travel made school tough. I did get a new glove each season so there was that. This is my fault for not being specific in what I mean. High major football and basketball programs generate millions of dollars for their institutions, their coaches are millionaires and their athletes have the best of everything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slu72 fan Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 7 hours ago, billiken_roy said: Don't lose sight of the fact Gillmann also switched majors along the way. I have never heard from anyone in the AD or the media proclaiming Austin is graduating with his Bachelor degree by the beginning of the fall semester. He's not graduating this spring Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtyRican Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 2 hours ago, STL Hoops Insider said: This is my fault for not being specific in what I mean. High major football and basketball programs generate millions of dollars for their institutions, their coaches are millionaires and their athletes have the best of everything. I figured as much, just really wanted to humble brag! haha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FromDaEastSide Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 For the fans that did not see on Instagram. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cowboy Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 -nice message, good luck Matt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bonwich Posted March 25, 2017 Share Posted March 25, 2017 On 3/22/2017 at 5:39 PM, STL Hoops Insider said: This is my fault for not being specific in what I mean. High major football and basketball programs generate millions of dollars for their institutions, their coaches are millionaires and their athletes have the best of everything. Repeat after me: Most college sports programs lose money. Most college sports programs lose money. Most college sports programs lose money. Even the biggest ones. I can probably find you a few dozen articles like this one if you'd like. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milwaukeebill Posted March 25, 2017 Share Posted March 25, 2017 47 minutes ago, bonwich said: Repeat after me: Most college sports programs lose money. Most college sports programs lose money. Most college sports programs lose money. Even the biggest ones. I can probably find you a few dozen articles like this one if you'd like. I mean saying "we lost money" after we built a new house for residences and redid all the coaching offices and player facilities for the players, And then we paid our coach far more than our university president and the assistants make tons of money is a pretty empty statement. Obviously I don't think Fordham gets the best stuff - but top level schools yeah they get nice stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milwaukeebill Posted March 25, 2017 Share Posted March 25, 2017 ^^^above is referring to top level bball and football programs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3star_recruit Posted March 25, 2017 Share Posted March 25, 2017 33 minutes ago, milwaukeebill said: ^^^above is referring to top level bball and football programs. Exactly, they lose money because they spend an ungodly amount of money. Yet college basketball as a whole is worse than the product I saw in 1983. It's comical. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kwyjibo Posted March 25, 2017 Share Posted March 25, 2017 1 hour ago, bonwich said: Repeat after me: Most college sports programs lose money. Most college sports programs lose money. Most college sports programs lose money. Even the biggest ones. I can probably find you a few dozen articles like this one if you'd like. Thank you Bonwich and thanks for the link. The economics of sports in general are widely misunderstood but college even more so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old guy Posted March 25, 2017 Share Posted March 25, 2017 Bonwich. While it may be true that the vast majority of college sports programs lose money, it must be understood that any outside money earned by a college team in tournament play, ticket revenue, or TV coverage rights will help defray its costs. It is better to have a team with outside income going into the balance sheet than one without any outside income. Once a fairly secure outside income flow is established, then it is up to the school to balance the financial act of the sport team to, at the very least, make the loss bearable by the school. If they cannot manage this balancing act they deserve whatever they get from running steep losses. Yes, I know school administrators are not finance oriented to be mild about it, and do blow the balancing act. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FromDaEastSide Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 If you didn't see on the front page links, rumblings from SLU hater Maurice Scott of the St Louis American: "But something real stinky happened right down the street regarding Travis Ford and his band in the SLU basketball program. Former Riverview Gardens standout Zeke Moore was forced out and asked for his release of his scholarship from SLU without much fanfare from the local media. But it didn’t go unnoticed from the East Side. Moore, who averaged 5.3 points and 20 minutes per game, was quite impressive during the 2016-17 Billiken season as a true freshman. Moore’s ability off the bench helped spark numerous Billikens runs that turned into the few wins the Billikens had this season. But head coach Travis Ford never seemed to give Zeke Moore the opportunity to blossom and often pulled him out of games just when he was doing well." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billikenfan05 Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 50 minutes ago, FromDaEastSide said: If you didn't see on the front page links, rumblings from SLU hater Maurice Scott of the St Louis American: "But something real stinky happened right down the street regarding Travis Ford and his band in the SLU basketball program. Former Riverview Gardens standout Zeke Moore was forced out and asked for his release of his scholarship from SLU without much fanfare from the local media. But it didn’t go unnoticed from the East Side. Moore, who averaged 5.3 points and 20 minutes per game, was quite impressive during the 2016-17 Billiken season as a true freshman. Moore’s ability off the bench helped spark numerous Billikens runs that turned into the few wins the Billikens had this season. But head coach Travis Ford never seemed to give Zeke Moore the opportunity to blossom and often pulled him out of games just when he was doing well." And yet, other than his own assertion, he offers no proof that Zeke was forced out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billikenswin Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 3 minutes ago, billikenfan05 said: And yet, other than his own assertion, he offers no proof that Zeke was forced out. I know for a fact that this is absolute garbage. Zeke was not forced out at all. In fact, Coach Ford wanted him to stay but other people influenced him to look for greener pastures. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
majerus mojo Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 "And make no mistake, the alumni and fans at Saint Louis University and the University of Illinois will feel the effect of Martin’s coaching, integrity and winning ways that are coming to Columbia. Martin and his staff will do things the right way at the University of Missouri." truly an amazing paragraph Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ACE Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 4 minutes ago, majerus mojo said: "And make no mistake, the alumni and fans at Saint Louis University and the University of Illinois will feel the effect of Martin’s coaching, integrity and winning ways that are coming to Columbia. Martin and his staff will do things the right way at the University of Missouri." truly an amazing paragraph I figured Scott would do the bidding for Martin. He is a hack. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheChosenOne Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 40 minutes ago, billikenfan05 said: And yet, other than his own assertion, he offers no proof that Zeke was forced out. Of course not, he and Charlie Tuna are hacks who love nothing more than to rip the local schools. I guess Scott now has a "friend" in Columbia at least on the hoops side, so maybe he will limit his bs to the football side there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Box and Won Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 1 hour ago, majerus mojo said: "Martin and his staff will do things the right way at the University of Missouri." He'd be the first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quality Is Job 1 Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 1 minute ago, Box and Won said: He'd be the first. I don't think Kim Anderson did things the wrong way; it's just that he was woefully overmatched. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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