slu72 Posted May 14, 2016 Share Posted May 14, 2016 I think Willie's dad got in his head and basically said, you don't need college to be in the NBA. I am a little surprised Rick didn't get thru to him more on his academics plus whatever the other reasons were. Have read that it wasn't all academics with Willie. That said, there is no denying we might have been a real force in 11-12 had we found a way to keep him eligible. Hell, we took #2 seeded MSU right down to the final shot in round 2. I think Willie might have been a difference maker that whole season let alone that one game. In my mind that was probably one of the best teams, if not the best, SLU had ever put on the floor. If Willie had been eligible, we might have been seeded a lot higher than 9. You can call him anything you want, but there's no denying his talent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianstl Posted May 15, 2016 Share Posted May 15, 2016 Wille's issues at SLU weren't all just academics. It was Willie's great ability on the basketball court that allowed him to make it through his first season. If almost any other player pulled the stuff he did, they would have never made it through their freshman season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Franchise_08 Posted May 15, 2016 Share Posted May 15, 2016 What stuff? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slubillikens43 Posted May 15, 2016 Share Posted May 15, 2016 I think Willie's dad got in his head and basically said, you don't need college to be in the NBA. I am a little surprised Rick didn't get thru to him more on his academics plus whatever the other reasons were. Have read that it wasn't all academics with Willie. That said, there is no denying we might have been a real force in 11-12 had we found a way to keep him eligible. Hell, we took #2 seeded MSU right down to the final shot in round 2. I think Willie might have been a difference maker that whole season let alone that one game. In my mind that was probably one of the best teams, if not the best, SLU had ever put on the floor. If Willie had been eligible, we might have been seeded a lot higher than 9. You can call him anything you want, but there's no denying his talent. MSU was a 1 seed that year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quality Is Job 1 Posted May 15, 2016 Share Posted May 15, 2016 MSU was a 1 seed that year I figured he was talking about the No 2. overall seed in the Tournament. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
majerus mojo Posted May 15, 2016 Share Posted May 15, 2016 This has become such an offseason thread.. the WR opinions are nauseating. Bash Jolly or keep it moving Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Pistol Posted June 23, 2016 Share Posted June 23, 2016 17 minutes ago, SluSignGuy said: That's more like it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old guy Posted June 23, 2016 Share Posted June 23, 2016 Division II, hope he will do fine and be happy there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cowboy Posted June 23, 2016 Share Posted June 23, 2016 -good luck in Fort Smith Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMM28 Posted June 23, 2016 Share Posted June 23, 2016 Figured he'd wind up in D4. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taj79 Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 Well, Jolly moves to near the top of my Billiken All-Time Worst Scholarship Team. I was going to list the members but you need more than 5 spots and I don't think even stopping it at a full roster (13) would do it justice. The competition for this team seems endless. Man we have missed a lot! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianstl Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 24 times Brett Jolly played more than 10 minutes in a game for the Billikens. He averaged 11 mpg as a freshman. Headed to D2. #crewscontrol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Box and Won Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 Bre(tt)xit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ACE Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 40 minutes ago, Taj79 said: Well, Jolly moves to near the top of my Billiken All-Time Worst Scholarship Team. I was going to list the members but you need more than 5 spots and I don't think even stopping it at a full roster (13) would do it justice. The competition for this team seems endless. Man we have missed a lot! Recruiting misses obviously suck when they happen to your team, but they are not unique to SLU. Look around college basketball... they happen all the time, even at very good programs. Talent evaluation is an in-exact science. The NBA draft is always a reminder of how often professional talent evaluators get it wrong. Then imagine how tough it can be for college coaches to project how 16 & 17 year old high school kids will develop in college. Now, having said all that... there is no excuse for BJ. Offering him was questionable then and he lived down to his low expectations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cowboy Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 2 hours ago, brianstl said: 24 times Brett Jolly played more than 10 minutes in a game for the Billikens. He averaged 11 mpg as a freshman. Headed to D2. #crewscontrol -as the ad used to declare, you've said it all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slu72 Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 4 hours ago, Taj79 said: Well, Jolly moves to near the top of my Billiken All-Time Worst Scholarship Team. I was going to list the members but you need more than 5 spots and I don't think even stopping it at a full roster (13) would do it justice. The competition for this team seems endless. Man we have missed a lot! A few suggestions. First you should keep it in this millennium, so most of the recent posters can contribute. Like, I don't know a lot about the 80s teams as was pretty much out of touch w/ Billiken hoops. So, if we're starting from 2000, here's some shoo in picks. Jolly, Obi Won, Dixon, Mitchell (not Kwamain, but can't remember his first name. I think he was from Broy's side of the river.), McGuire, Polk, Knollmeyer, Manning and that Greek Guard (sorry Rick, but you can't be right all the time), Lancona, Milik, Reynolds. I'm sure more will be coming from more knowledgeable posters. My criteria were guys that would never compete in CUSA or the A10. Not ready to throw Crewsplatt remaining 3 under the bus just yet, because they're still on the team. But unless they turn it around this season they're gonna make it as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slu72 Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 I forgot Justin Warmup Johnson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NextYearBill Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 Husak Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bauman Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 I'm sorry but I have to go back beyond 2000 to include on any "worst" list my all time worst Billiken who I'm sure many of the posters will remember. It's none other than Sekue Barentine. I'm not even going to take the time to check on the spelling of his name. He had hands of stone, making it a 50/50 proposition on his catching a pass and that was the BEST of his skills. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheeseman Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 1 hour ago, slu72 said: A few suggestions. First you should keep it in this millennium, so most of the recent posters can contribute. Like, I don't know a lot about the 80s teams as was pretty much out of touch w/ Billiken hoops. So, if we're starting from 2000, here's some shoo in picks. Jolly, Obi Won, Dixon, Mitchell (not Kwamain, but can't remember his first name. I think he was from Broy's side of the river.), McGuire, Polk, Knollmeyer, Manning and that Greek Guard (sorry Rick, but you can't be right all the time), Lancona, Milik, Reynolds. I'm sure more will be coming from more knowledgeable posters. My criteria were guys that would never compete in CUSA or the A10. Not ready to throw Crewsplatt remaining 3 under the bus just yet, because they're still on the team. But unless they turn it around this season they're gonna make it as well. Polk and Manning do not belong on that list. Polk was the Missouri player of the year. Not his fault he was injuries and never really recovered. Manning while not a great player it is not fair to compare him with Obi and Dixon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slufanskip Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 1 hour ago, NextYearBill said: Husak Husak wouldn't belong on that list. He played 18 mpg averaging 5.5 ppg and about 4 boards a game plus 1 block his Sr year. With the recruits we've had there's no way he'd be on a team of worst recruits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willie Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 1 hour ago, bauman said: I'm sorry but I have to go back beyond 2000 to include on any "worst" list my all time worst Billiken who I'm sure many of the posters will remember. It's none other than Sekue Barentine. I'm not even going to take the time to check on the spelling of his name. He had hands of stone, making it a 50/50 proposition on his catching a pass and that was the BEST of his skills. 1 hour ago, bauman said: I'm sorry but I have to go back beyond 2000 to include on any "worst" list my all time worst Billiken who I'm sure many of the posters will remember. It's none other than Sekue Barentine. I'm not even going to take the time to check on the spelling of his name. He had hands of stone, making it a 50/50 proposition on his catching a pass and that was the BEST of his skills. I will never forgive Charlie for Sekue. Any decent JC center and we dance. He could run through. Should have been a track star. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmbilliken Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 Charlie thought he had a decent juco center lined, but he backed out at the last minute and Charlie had no plan B. Barentine wasn't even a starter on his juco team. He was their backup center. He was the epitome of lazy recruiting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierPal Posted June 25, 2016 Share Posted June 25, 2016 13 hours ago, kmbilliken said: Charlie thought he had a decent juco center lined, but he backed out at the last minute and Charlie had no plan B. Barentine wasn't even a starter on his juco team. He was their backup center. He was the epitome of lazy recruiting. Ah, but Sekue was the Texas HS IM hurdles champ in his school's division. Too bad there were no 'sticks' on the basketball floor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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