thetorch Posted March 31, 2016 Share Posted March 31, 2016 anyone with a press conference link? I still can't get it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrangePepper Posted March 31, 2016 Share Posted March 31, 2016 First of all, I hope Coach Ford does well at SLU. However, this sounded like the same presser from 2008 in Stillwater. The Cowboys never ran uptempo, and never pressed, as was said today. However, his teams played extremely hard and never gave up. He did bring some big time recruits, but Coach Ford had the most undisciplined offenses that were on display. He always could recruit a few big fish, but could never get a team. It always seemed like he had a bunch of athletic pieces that never fit. Coach Ford's undoing was the falling attendence the last few years, with this past year having only a couple thousand towards the end of his tenure. I hope he does bring in former players, as this never happened in Stillwater. I truly hope he can do what he said today for SLU, as it never came close in Stillwater. After going to 2 Final Fours and and Elite 8 in the previous 13 years prior to Coach Ford, needless to say there was quite the disappointment. He was never a fit in Stillwater so I want it to be a fit for him at SLU. He worked very hard, and like I said earlier, he did get his players to play hard and never quit, they just couldn't win or play good, smart, disciplined basketball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HenryB Posted March 31, 2016 Share Posted March 31, 2016 A10 Site http://www.slubillikens.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=27200&ATCLID=210850698 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMM28 Posted March 31, 2016 Share Posted March 31, 2016 So OrangePepper, you're telling me that coaches introductory press conferences are full of mumbo jumbo? I will remain firmly in the prove it camp, despite the politician rolled out there today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NH Posted March 31, 2016 Share Posted March 31, 2016 anyone with a press conference link? I still can't get it? Keep checking the billiken athletics youtube channel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Cowboy Posted March 31, 2016 Share Posted March 31, 2016 -whoever had the idea to get Ford together with Grawer, good move! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrangePepper Posted March 31, 2016 Share Posted March 31, 2016 So OrangePepper, you're telling me that coaches introductory press conferences are full of mumbo jumbo? I will remain firmly in the prove it camp, despite the politician rolled out there today. You are correct that most pressers are that way. After hearing Coach Fords "plan" for the Cowboys 8 years ago, today sounded like it was the same answers. The Cowboys never played uptempo and never pressed. In fact, I still don't know what Coach Ford runs as far as his offensive philosophy, except that it was incredibly inefficient. I hope he fits at SLU and it works, I really do. I don't want any fan base to endure a product you can't even watch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hsmith19 Posted March 31, 2016 Share Posted March 31, 2016 In fact, I still don't know what Coach Ford runs as far as his offensive philosophy, except that it was incredibly inefficient...I don't want any fan base to endure a product you can't even watch. You can't possibly know how familiar these two lines sound after the last two seasons here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wgstl Posted March 31, 2016 Share Posted March 31, 2016 You can't possibly know how familiar these two lines sound after the last two seasons here. +100 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigMouthBilliken Posted March 31, 2016 Share Posted March 31, 2016 Great! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adman Posted March 31, 2016 Share Posted March 31, 2016 Majerus didn't give a sh*t and candidly I liked it. He big timed the local media and the local high school basketball community and I really enjoyed it. Those people are small time and shouldn't be catered to by a guy like Majerus. While that worked for Majerus who was going to have success regardless of whether you write nice things about him or send your players to him, those relationships are more important for lesser coaches. That is where I think a guy like Ford could be a welcome addition, he should be able to help on both fronts with his Midwest aw-shucks personality. Agree and disagree. Yes, he big timed the local media and the local high school bball community and it worked for him - on the court. Where it didn't work was at the box office. About the only person he gave the time of day to was Bernie Miklasz. Piss off the local media -- and he did -- and you'll end up with average attendance in the 8-9,000 range for a top 20 team. Bad. Charlie didn't have as good a team but packed the house in a much bigger arena. Maybe Ford can do both. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheChosenOne Posted March 31, 2016 Share Posted March 31, 2016 Agree and disagree. Yes, he big timed the local media and the local high school bball community and it worked for him - on the court. Where it didn't work was at the box office. About the only person he gave the time of day to was Bernie Miklasz. Piss off the local media -- and he did -- and you'll end up with average attendance in the 8-9,000 range for a top 20 team. Bad. Charlie didn't have as good a team but packed the house in a much bigger arena. Maybe Ford can do both. Good post, I agree. I was just happy to see some of the jack offs in the local hoops community and media get big timed by the SLU coach and then have to watch that team win at a historic level. Many of those guys have egos for no apparent reason and seem to enjoy toying with SLU. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheeseman Posted March 31, 2016 Share Posted March 31, 2016 Of course today was a dog and pony show that is what is expected. Now we have heard this up tempo thing from just about every coach we have had except for RM so we are use to knowing that the proof is in what we see on the court. Will Ford do like the others - who knows but he is going to have to win ultimately so he will have to figure it out or he will be gone in 3 years. Hopefully he has learned from his mistakes at OKS- time will tell. As I have said before, I am open to him until he shows I should not be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slu72 Posted March 31, 2016 Share Posted March 31, 2016 You can't possibly know how familiar these two lines sound after the last two seasons here. That does sound scary. Cripes, aren't there any of Rickma's old napkins in the files? Notes? Videos of his practices? Read Rick's book, Travis. It works. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bonwich Posted March 31, 2016 Share Posted March 31, 2016 Let's also remember that the local media is going to have a gargantuan hole to fill in terms of content once late fall rolls around. Especially with a new coach, the attention is now ours to lose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe_davola Posted March 31, 2016 Share Posted March 31, 2016 Just bought an entire row in 108 after that presser. Go bills. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adman Posted March 31, 2016 Share Posted March 31, 2016 Good post, I agree. I was just happy to see some of the jack offs in the local hoops community and media get big timed by the SLU coach and then have to watch that team win at a historic level. Many of those guys have egos for no apparent reason and seem to enjoy toying with SLU. Thanks. Yea, I've been angry about us being treated like the little brother in this city for too too long. But honestly, we've been our own worst enemy with historically poor commitment - among other things. But the University's commitment to top flight building and top flight coaches puts them clearly in the game. Now is the time to stroke those silly media egos, have them on our side. Trust me; there's a world-class MLB team a few miles down the street from SLU that could look down their noses at every two-bit media person and wannabe. But they treat 'em relatively like gold, all the way to 3+ million - year after year. And while I know that today was a lot of coach-speak, exactly what you'd expect new coach to say, he's absolutely right. There is a tremendous opportunity here. Great facility, big market, history of big crowd support (still amazing Spoon averaged 16,000+ two years, #4 in country one of them,) a committed board of trustees and president, a very good education for the kids,great campus, an opening a mile wide with no NFL or NBA -- and a fan base waiting to come out of hibernation. An eternal optimist I am. But we know 16,000 will come to watch Charlie's team - average. That's a fact. If done right -- good product and good marketing, squeezing demand into a much smaller 10,300-seat area should indeed make it the toughest ticket in town. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierBilliken Posted April 1, 2016 Share Posted April 1, 2016 Good first impression. SLU did well. Young coach with a ton of head coaching experience and enthusiasm for recruiting. Sounded like Ford is what everyone was wishing for but just didn't realize it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old guy Posted April 1, 2016 Share Posted April 1, 2016 I hate to say this, I have always been a supporter of the coach in his role, however there are two sides to this coin describing what a head coach should be able to do: 1. In terms of being able to talk convincingly and carry the enthusiasm and support of the crowd, Ford definitely has proven to be a most capable person. He wowed them in the interviews and he wowed them in the press conference today. He aces the PR, showtime, portion of the deal. Crews was never very good at this. 2. The other side of the coin is, of course performance. We will not see this side until the season starts. Of course Crews was not very good at this either. I really hope Ford is a true, solid guy capable of delivering. However nowadays we see entirely too many people that talk pretty and convincingly and plainly do not deliver. Let's hope Ford is not one of these ilk. We live in the era of all show and all look at me pretense, I hope he is not in that group of people. I must say I am pretty turned off by the fact that he kept Platt as Associate coach without looking into what Platt has been doing for these last few years. I think this is not a good way to start after his triumphant public presentation. We will see, but color me skeptical at this time. Remember the Governor of Illinois, now serving time, with the unpronounceable name, Blagogevicz or something like it. They were selling Blagogevicz sandwiches in Chicago after he was sentenced, these were, of course, boloney sandwiches. Let's hope our sandwich shops will not be selling Ford sandwiches in 3 or 4 years (again boloney sandwiches, why reinvent the wheel, just rename it). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FromDaEastSide Posted April 1, 2016 Share Posted April 1, 2016 I must say I am pretty turned off by the fact that he kept Platt as Associate coach without looking into what Platt has been doing for these last few years. ? - Do you have some inside info that no one else does? When the TF announce his staff? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FromDaEastSide Posted April 1, 2016 Share Posted April 1, 2016 I must say I am pretty turned off by the fact that he kept Platt as Associate coach without looking into what Platt has been doing for these last few years. ? - Do you have some inside info that no one else does? When the TF announce his staff? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quality Is Job 1 Posted April 1, 2016 Share Posted April 1, 2016 Thicks, picking up on sarcasm/jokes has never been your strong suit. Oh. Thanks for telling me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigMouthBilliken Posted April 1, 2016 Share Posted April 1, 2016 I hate to say this, I have always been a supporter of the coach in his role, however there are two sides to this coin describing what a head coach should be able to do: 1. In terms of being able to talk convincingly and carry the enthusiasm and support of the crowd, Ford definitely has proven to be a most capable person. He wowed them in the interviews and he wowed them in the press conference today. He aces the PR, showtime, portion of the deal. Crews was never very good at this. 2. The other side of the coin is, of course performance. We will not see this side until the season starts. Of course Crews was not very good at this either. I really hope Ford is a true, solid guy capable of delivering. However nowadays we see entirely too many people that talk pretty and convincingly and plainly do not deliver. Let's hope Ford is not one of these ilk. We live in the era of all show and all look at me pretense, I hope he is not in that group of people. I must say I am pretty turned off by the fact that he kept Platt as Associate coach without looking into what Platt has been doing for these last few years. I think this is not a good way to start after his triumphant public presentation. We will see, but color me skeptical at this time. Remember the Governor of Illinois, now serving time, with the unpronounceable name, Blagogevicz or something like it. They were selling Blagogevicz sandwiches in Chicago after he was sentenced, these were, of course, boloney sandwiches. Let's hope our sandwich shops will not be selling Ford sandwiches in 3 or 4 years (again boloney sandwiches, why reinvent the wheel, just rename it). Since when did he announce he was bringing back Platt? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Pelican Posted April 1, 2016 Share Posted April 1, 2016 Old guy with the scoop! Actually, I think he's likely wrong about this. I think someone, somewhere made a sarcastic comment that Platt was staying and maybe, just maybe Old guy picked up on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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