Zink Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 6 hours ago, thetorch said: Silly Anthony Bennett, Aaron Gordon, Julius Randle, Jabari Parker, Ben Simmons, and on and on. Not saying he's a 1 and done but 7 foot PFs with 7'5 wingspans are hard to come by. Most like these guys are measured at or below 6'10 with below average wingspans, less than 3 inches longer than they are tall. You also get a few guys like Jahlil Okafor and Nerlens Noel who get great measurements but in photos look 3 or 4 inches shorter than their 7 foot teammates and play like they are. Gordon at 16 was measured at USA basketball camp in shoes at 6'9 with a wingspan over 7 feet. Comparable with everyone on this list with 3 more years to grow. http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Carte-Are-Gordon-85452/ He's never actually measured 6'9" (that's just what he gets listed as) and his wingspan is right at 7'. I think he could go one and done, but is the kind of guy who could go from being a mid-late first rounder to a top-5 pick with the addition of a jump shot/another plus skill. He's not as good an athlete as Randle, nor does he have the same ability to put the ball on the floor. Randle was a consensus top-5 recruit in a loaded class and wound up as the 7th pick. Gordon would have to move up quite a bit to match that pedigree. Possible, but we'll see how eager he is to get to the pros. He would almost certainly get drafted after one year, it just might not be as high as he'd like. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wgstl Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 Anybody who is ranked that high has somewhat of a chance at one and done, but I dont see his being as sure of a one and done as a Tatum or Porter jr. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianstl Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 1 hour ago, billiken_roy said: gordon has not shown he is the elite scorer yet like tatum or hughes that could just carry his team for an entire game. there is no doubt he has a once in a lifetime body that very few 16 year olds have, but for my money he has a ways to go yet to be considered a one and done. dont get me wrong. he is an awesome get for the billikens. but one and done is saying too much at this stage. lets talk again in 12 months about that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianstl Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 7 minutes ago, wgstl said: Anybody who is ranked that high has somewhat of a chance at one and done, but I dont see his being as sure of a one and done as a Tatum or Porter jr. I agree with this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierPal Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 11 minutes ago, brianstl said: I agree with this. I just looked at three 2017 NBA mock drafts, NBAdraft.com, ESPN and CBS. For the 2017 draft, the number of freshmen predicted to be drafted in the first round for these three sources were 15, 16 and 17. Sure each year is different, but if Gordon is a #9, he certainly is in the one and done conversation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiseAndGrind Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 Well who ever said we weren't talking about Gordon enough - I think we succeeded Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wgstl Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 4 minutes ago, HoosierPal said: I just looked at three 2017 NBA mock drafts, NBAdraft.com, ESPN and CBS. For the 2017 draft, the number of freshmen predicted to be drafted in the first round for these three sources were 15, 16 and 17. Sure each year is different, but if Gordon is a #9, he certainly is in the one and done conversation. how's thats any different from my post? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wgstl Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 FWIW I think Gordon will be a 2 in done. Which obviously is more ideal as a fan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cowboy Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 9 minutes ago, wgstl said: FWIW I think Gordon will be a 2 in done. Which obviously is more ideal as a fan. -if he is this good, that is simply fantastic, I hope to see him play this season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wgstl Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 17 minutes ago, Cowboy said: -if he is this good, that is simply fantastic, I hope to see him play this season His first game has me pumped. jan 27th @ SLUH i'll probably ditch my WG gear and put on my SLU stuff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quality Is Job 1 Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 16 minutes ago, wgstl said: His first game has me pumped. jan 27th @ SLUH i'll probably ditch my WG gear and put on my SLU stuff Mix. Something SLU, something WG. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wgstl Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 SLU doesnt make Rameys final 13 school list Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cgeldmacher Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 Who's on the list? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ACE Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 17 minutes ago, wgstl said: SLU doesnt make Rameys final 13 school list No surprise... always got the feeling the kid was a tool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FromDaEastSide Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 17 minutes ago, cgeldmacher said: Who's on the list? Illinois, Creighton, K State, Arkansas, Louisville, Mizzou, Iowa State, Texas, Florida, Marquette, Ohio State, Northwestern and Southern Cal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NextYearBill Posted January 16, 2017 Author Share Posted January 16, 2017 tool Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMM28 Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 45 minutes ago, FromDaEastSide said: Illinois, Creighton, K State, Arkansas, Louisville, Mizzou, Iowa State, Texas, Florida, Marquette, Ohio State, Northwestern and Southern Cal Outside of Louisville and Florida, that list reads like the perennial underachiever of preseason hype list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
almaman Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 6 hours ago, billikenfan05 said: WV has a history of not knowing what he's talking about... replace WV with MBMs and I'm on board. It does seem nuts to be all over Gordon with so little actual HS experience but those scouting folks have a collective keen eye because overall hype does usually hold up. I bet he hits D-1 higher than 6'9" typed this before I read Zink's so I guess 6'9" final height? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cowboy Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 (edited) -If Ramey doesn't want to go to SLU right away that's okay, we'll take his transfer from Marquette after one year......if he is good enough for us at that time Edited January 16, 2017 by Quality Is Job 1 Fix technical issue. (Try viewing source to delete unwanted text/code.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Majerus Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 1 hour ago, FromDaEastSide said: Illinois, Creighton, K State, Arkansas, Louisville, Mizzou, Iowa State, Texas, Florida, Marquette, Ohio State, Northwestern and Southern Cal He wants to go away to school - it's ok. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiseAndGrind Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 1 hour ago, almaman said: replace WV with MBMs and I'm on board. It does seem nuts to be all over Gordon with so little actual HS experience but those scouting folks have a collective keen eye because overall hype does usually hold up. I bet he hits D-1 higher than 6'9" typed this before I read Zink's so I guess 6'9" final height? While I understand and agree with your main point, Gordon has pretty much proven himself at the AAU and USA Basketball level. It will be nice to see him against local high school competition. As Roy pointed out earlier (I think) Gordon's stats aren't going to be as gaudy as Hughes', but he should be a next-level dominate player this year for WG. He will probably be even more dominate because unlike more high school bigs, he has a point guard who can actually get him the ball. He's ranked #9 in the Country for a reason. (OK, I have sufficiently hyped myself up regarding a Gordon, Foreman, French front court) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glorydays2013 Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 Well I will be looking forward to Gordon outperforming Ramey this next part of the season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianstl Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 Gordon averaged 20 points a game as a sophomore. That is a pretty impressive number for someone that age who everyone was keying on defensively. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierPal Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 2 hours ago, RiseAndGrind said: (OK, I have sufficiently hyped myself up regarding a Gordon, Foreman, French front court) Jumping a thousand miles ahead, but I doubt if you see this as a front court very often. They play too much the same, with no outside threat. I'm looking at Foreman coming off the bench his senior year, with three 'guards/SF' like Henriquez, Goodwin and Johnson/Bess running with Gordon and French up front. Pure speculation on my part, but let the hype (and second guessing by Soderballs) begin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NextYearBill Posted January 17, 2017 Author Share Posted January 17, 2017 21 minutes ago, HoosierPal said: Jumping a thousand miles ahead, but I doubt if you see this as a front court very often. They play too much the same, with no outside threat. I'm looking at Foreman coming off the bench his senior year, with three 'guards/SF' like Henriquez, Goodwin and Johnson/Bess running with Gordon and French up front. Pure speculation on my part, but let the hype (and second guessing by Soderballs) begin. i think Foreman is going to surprise us. He gets overlooked, i think, because he was the first recruit/transfer to jump on board.... youtube his Rutgers highlights... kid could run the floor and jam with authority Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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