SLU_Nick Posted May 4, 2017 Share Posted May 4, 2017 21 minutes ago, For-DaLove said: This seems like a major exaggeration. Dwight Howard has 2-3 inches and 40+ pounds on Bolden. If Bolden was anywhere good enough to be a top 10 pick in this year's draft he would've played for Duke. http://247sports.com/player/marques-bolden-34793 I have him here at 6'11 250. That said, I was exagerrating for effect. Either way, I still think he would have had a much better chance to show his potential if he went somewhere where he didnt have to sit behind Harry Giles, Tatum, Jefferson etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheeseman Posted May 4, 2017 Share Posted May 4, 2017 59 minutes ago, Old guy said: OK, there we go to satisfy the spelling cops, Stanford. OK now? It is not the spelling cops - they are 2 very different schools. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3star_recruit Posted May 4, 2017 Share Posted May 4, 2017 All these 6'9 240 lb McDonald's All-Americans going to sit on the bench at Duke just boggle my mind. They could go to a mid-major conference, put up big numbers, get drafted no worse than early 2nd round. Then they could get paid hundreds of thousands of dollars to sit on the end of the bench instead of doing it at Duke for free. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
For-DaLove Posted May 4, 2017 Share Posted May 4, 2017 53 minutes ago, SLU_Nick said: http://247sports.com/player/marques-bolden-34793 I have him here at 6'11 250. That said, I was exagerrating for effect. Either way, I still think he would have had a much better chance to show his potential if he went somewhere where he didnt have to sit behind Harry Giles, Tatum, Jefferson etc. I generally agree with you. The main issue is that all of these kids believe they will be good enough to get minutes for Duke, Kentucky, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMM28 Posted May 4, 2017 Share Posted May 4, 2017 1 hour ago, For-DaLove said: I generally agree with you. The main issue is that all of these kids believe they will be good enough to get minutes for Duke, Kentucky, etc. Dont forget their AAU coaches and handler types that want to say they've sent a kid to those schools as well. And their friends who are starstruck when Coach K and Cal show up for games or practice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ACE Posted May 4, 2017 Share Posted May 4, 2017 1 minute ago, JMM28 said: Dont forget their AAU coaches and handler types that want to say they've sent a kid to those schools as well. And their friends who are starstruck when Coach K and Cal show up for games or practice. + 1 Makes me think of that a-hole assistant from SWIC back in the day who always thought his players were too good for SLU. You're still a lifer assistant at a juco.... loser! A lot of these tools are more interested in padding their resumes than what might be best for the kid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pistol Posted May 5, 2017 Share Posted May 5, 2017 Frankie Hughes might be close to having some news, if his mother's cryptic tweet means anything: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pistol Posted May 5, 2017 Share Posted May 5, 2017 Isaiah Whaley is visiting New Mexico on Monday and UConn on Wednesday. He also just picked up a Fordham offer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slu72 Posted May 5, 2017 Share Posted May 5, 2017 I'll admit that I don't pay much attention to the NBA these days, but whenever I did occasionally watch it there would be American players that I'd never heard of during their college days. Guys like Rodman, Malone, Pippen didn't play for Duke, KY, or UNC, yet were stars in the NBA. Even today on the rare occasion when I catch part of a game, I hear names that weren't household names from watching a fair amount of college ball. Take Willie Reed for example. I'll wager there aren't many casual NBA fans who know he attended SLU. Sure the Dukes, UK's, UNC's, et al will facilitate you being scouted, but only if you get the playing time to demonstrate you have skills that translate into what the NBA requires. Point being, NBA scouts know what it takes to play in the NBA and don't care if those skills and talents are found in a guy who plays for Podunk U in Backhills, ND. That's why it's always a mystery to me why a highly rated kid say, in the 25 to 100 ranking, will opt to take a Duke or UK offer and run the risk of being practice fodder for 4 years or seeking a transfer after a year or two of being recruited over. Yeah, it would be nice to have a good shot at winning an NCAA championship ring, but I'd prefer actually playing for a lesser team than being a pine riding cheerleader. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bauman Posted May 5, 2017 Share Posted May 5, 2017 slu72, agree with you and how did that championship ring thing work out for J Tatum? Not saying he made a mistake, just that going to a Duke/NC or KY doesn't mean you are going to have your name on a championship banner hanging in the arena of one of those schools. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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billiken_roy Posted May 5, 2017 Share Posted May 5, 2017 the one thing playing at the dukes or UNC or Kentucky guarantees is the national spotlight. I would guess tatum's last two weeks of the season moved up a couple of notches and made him millions. it resolved the question marks that might have been lurking in nba minds. that said, did going to duke cost harry giles the opposite? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slu72 Posted May 5, 2017 Share Posted May 5, 2017 24 minutes ago, billiken_roy said: the one thing playing at the dukes or UNC or Kentucky guarantees is the national spotlight. I would guess tatum's last two weeks of the season moved up a couple of notches and made him millions. it resolved the question marks that might have been lurking in nba minds. that said, did going to duke cost harry giles the opposite? More likely Harry Giles two surgically repaired knees have caused some angst w/ NBA teams. The fact that Coach K went to a 6 man rotation, though, should cause the rest of his 4 and 5 stars riding the pine to have second thoughts about seeking their fortunes in Durham. The reason for there being something like 700 players changing schools every year is mostly due to kids seeking better playing time opportunities. Not the only reason for sure, but I'd wager it's the primary reason. Take Zeke Moore for example. He got his chance at lots of minutes for a FR, but he knew Travis had recruited over him and his court time would likely be trimmed. I actually thought he did ok for a FR and would provide some solid bench support going forward. That's not what he wanted obviously, and you can't fault him for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3star_recruit Posted May 5, 2017 Share Posted May 5, 2017 Tatum could have gone to any halfway decent P5 team, averaged 18 ppg, led them to the NCAA tournament and still made the NCAA tournament. He was trying to paint the picture perfect story. High school champion, NCAA champion. Didn't happen. Giles got hurt before the season and never got right physically. He was not going to put up big stats this year even if he played at a middling P5 team. But at least he could have put up respectable numbers. I feel like his entering the draft while not showing anything in college is an act of desperation. There's a chance an NBA team could take him in the first round based on his rep before the injury. But if he were to return to Duke and have another disappointing season, he would fall out of the first round altogether. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moytoy12 Posted May 5, 2017 Share Posted May 5, 2017 Maybe this was mentioned somewhere on the board, but I didn't realize that Roby is graduating this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glorydays2013 Posted May 5, 2017 Share Posted May 5, 2017 He had a twitter pic of his graduation letter and a few pictures in the gown Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quality Is Job 1 Posted May 5, 2017 Share Posted May 5, 2017 1 hour ago, 3star_recruit said: Tatum could have gone to any halfway decent P5 team, averaged 18 ppg, led them to the NCAA tournament and still gone in the NBA Draft 1st rd. He was trying to paint the picture perfect story. High school champion, NCAA champion. Didn't happen. I'm guessing this is along the lines of what you meant to type. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slu72 Posted May 5, 2017 Share Posted May 5, 2017 Every hoops guru had Duke winning it all this year w/ the loaded FR class they had on campus. Am sure Tatum felt the same. Injuries, dissent, and the learning curve all came into play and destroyed the Dukies. Still, come draft time I don't think young Mr. Tatum will have any regrets how things turned out for him. Time and truckloads of cash heals all wounds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wgstl Posted May 5, 2017 Share Posted May 5, 2017 1 minute ago, slu72 said: Every hoops guru had Duke winning it all this year w/ the loaded FR class they had on campus. Am sure Tatum felt the same. Injuries, dissent, and the learning curve all came into play and destroyed the Dukies. Still, come draft time I don't think young Mr. Tatum will have any regrets how things turned out for him. Time and truckloads of cash heals all wounds. Harry Giles had a lot to do with that. No doubt they would have been the clear favorites had harry been 100% Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cgeldmacher Posted May 5, 2017 Share Posted May 5, 2017 2 hours ago, majerus mojo said: Don't forget about Stephen Curry. Two of the NBA's biggest young stars are both from mid majors. Didn't seem to hurt their careers or earning potential. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billiken_roy Posted May 5, 2017 Share Posted May 5, 2017 1 hour ago, 3star_recruit said: Tatum could have gone to any halfway decent P5 team, averaged 18 ppg, led them to the NCAA tournament and still made the NCAA tournament. He was trying to paint the picture perfect story. High school champion, NCAA champion. Didn't happen. Giles got hurt before the season and never got right physically. He was not going to put up big stats this year even if he played at a middling P5 team. But at least he could have put up respectable numbers. I feel like his entering the draft while not showing anything in college is an act of desperation. There's a chance an NBA team could take him in the first round based on his rep before the injury. But if he were to return to Duke and have another disappointing season, he would fall out of the first round altogether. tatum was a first round pick no matter what assuming no disabling injury. however he probably cemented a top 5 pick the way he played in the acc tourney and the beginning of the ncaa tourney imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierPal Posted May 5, 2017 Share Posted May 5, 2017 2 hours ago, moytoy12 said: Maybe this was mentioned somewhere on the board, but I didn't realize that Roby is graduating this year. Wow this is great news. I hope we don't lose him as a GT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moytoy12 Posted May 5, 2017 Share Posted May 5, 2017 37 minutes ago, HoosierPal said: Wow this is great news. I hope we don't lose him as a GT. He's had some interesting tweets recently. One in particular that expressed displeasure with "Saint Louis". Not sure if he meant the city or school. Nor am I really going to try to read too much into twitter, but it did catch my eye nonetheless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wgstl Posted May 5, 2017 Share Posted May 5, 2017 7 minutes ago, moytoy12 said: He's had some interesting tweets recently. One in particular that expressed displeasure with "Saint Louis". Not sure if he meant the city or school. Nor am I really going to try to read too much into twitter, but it did catch my eye nonetheless. Odd. at the same time tho no one was more pumped about getting Coach ford, those transfers, and Goodwin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Littlebill Posted May 5, 2017 Share Posted May 5, 2017 9 minutes ago, moytoy12 said: He's had some interesting tweets recently. One in particular that expressed displeasure with "Saint Louis". Not sure if he meant the city or school. Nor am I really going to try to read too much into twitter, but it did catch my eye nonetheless. We also were in the midst of a Noah's Ark level storm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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