kshoe Posted September 5, 2013 Share Posted September 5, 2013 At about the 5 minute mark he talks expansion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Pelican Posted September 5, 2013 Share Posted September 5, 2013 Thanks. At least he mentioned us FIRST. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cgeldmacher Posted September 5, 2013 Share Posted September 5, 2013 At about the 5 minute mark he talks expansion. Love that he seems sure that expansion will occur. Don't love that he says between 2 to 5 years. Love that he mentioned SLU first among the possible teams, even after they were just talking about Dayton. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prebilliken Posted September 5, 2013 Share Posted September 5, 2013 There is NO WAY that they stall 2-5 years on this. Just no way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
For-DaLove Posted September 5, 2013 Share Posted September 5, 2013 Love that he seems sure that expansion will occur. Don't love that he says between 2 to 5 years. Love that he mentioned SLU first among the possible teams, even after they were just talking about Dayton. 2 years is what I've heard all along for the next phase of expansion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quality Is Job 1 Posted September 5, 2013 Share Posted September 5, 2013 2 years is what I've heard all along for the next phase of expansion So you're saying that SLU has to wait until the 2015-16 season to begin Big East play? Ugh. But it wouldn't be too bad as long as the announcement of an invitation comes in, say, January 2014. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basketbill Posted September 6, 2013 Share Posted September 6, 2013 Key phrase is "what is one paper" there is a plan ........ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clock_Tower Posted September 6, 2013 Share Posted September 6, 2013 Count me in the camp of probably 99% of Billiken fans who thought we'd be in the new Big East by now (or at least an announcement by now for next year as was originally reported by ESPN) and also that we'd be invited ahead of Creighton. Now, IF we get in 2 years or so with expansion, then count me in the camp that not being an original member of the new Big East will probably be better for SLU. SLU and Jim Crews simply need to win and need to keep making the NCAA Tourney. Sweet 16? Final Four? Either/both would be great!! We just need to keep making the Tourney (and collect the proceeds each year), keep the wins coming and continue to make a name for ourselves other than be known as "another tough team" in a good conference or "another team you'd rather not play". Our program needs to be champions of something -- the A10 regular season, the A10 conference season, another tournament/holiday tournament. And being a less competitive A10 for two more years will probably be just fine. Butler and Creighton have already made names for themselves, have been their conference champions many times, have been making the Tourney for years but now need to compete against the best in league play -- something neither of them have ever done -- and still make the Tourney. We will see what happens. In contrast, SLU has done this years and yet has not won (until last year) and has not been invited to many Tourneys. Being a tough game and pulling an upset at home against the likes of Cincy, Louisville, Memphis, etc. did not put our program on par with theirs. Consistently winning and making the Tourney is what makes a program an elite program. These next two years may actually be just what SLU needs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cowboy Posted September 6, 2013 Share Posted September 6, 2013 -interesting comment that x's non-conf schedule is wrapped up for next year -to play amateur media critic, the host was horrible and interesting that x has no standards on autographs for their student athletes, they are in Ohio right? home of Ohio St? -I like that he mentions us first on expansion, but then he mentions 3 more (SVU, Rich and VCU), imo we need to keep making ourselves attractive to the Beast by making the tourney and advancing, we are not a lock Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slu72 Posted September 6, 2013 Share Posted September 6, 2013 My take on this is we get our new Pres on board, and he starts pressing the flesh and working the phones ASAP. He said this will be "Presidents decision", and since we don't currently have one, we're w/o a lobbyist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slu72 Posted September 6, 2013 Share Posted September 6, 2013 -interesting comment that x's non-conf schedule is wrapped up for next year -to play amateur media critic, the host was horrible and interesting that x has no standards on autographs for their student athletes, they are in Ohio right? home of Ohio St? -I like that he mentions us first on expansion, but then he mentions 3 more (SVU, Rich and VCU), imo we need to keep making ourselves attractive to the Beast by making the tourney and advancing, we are not a lock Also, we better start selling out games like UD and VCU do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianstl Posted September 6, 2013 Share Posted September 6, 2013 Also, we better start selling out games like UD and VCU do. UD had one sell out last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billiken_roy Posted September 6, 2013 Share Posted September 6, 2013 If the big east bottom feeders, providence, st johns, seton hall, depaul dont get better, if creighton snd butler dont come through (stevens gone, creoghton's coach's all american kid graduates) it wouldnt surprise me slu says thanks but no thanks. By all rumors the cost to change conferences would be high and honestly the A-10 has been improving. The big east has bungled a lot of the setup. Is it probably going to be the right move? Yes. Is it a lay down? Not necessarily. i think the big east has some performing to do as well imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMM28 Posted September 6, 2013 Share Posted September 6, 2013 If the big east bottom feeders, providence, st johns, seton hall, depaul dont get better, if creighton snd butler dont come through (stevens gone, creoghton's coach's all american kid graduates) it wouldnt surprise me slu says thanks but no thanks. By all rumors the cost to change conferences would be high and honestly the A-10 has been improving. The big east has bungled a lot of the setup. Is it probably going to be the right move? Yes. Is it a lay down? Not necessarily. i think the big east has some performing to do as well imo. If the tv money is there, it's a no brainer. Not to mention its a no brainer with Marquette, Creighton, DePaul, Xavier, and Butler there regardless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheeseman Posted September 6, 2013 Share Posted September 6, 2013 The BE has little to prove at least not right away. They will be able to coast on their laurels for a few years but I agree eventually they will have to put or shut up. I am not sure how tough the A10 will be over the long run - they could go either way. I do think they have the ingredients to be a tough conference next year. I can see the merit of us having choices rather than being the desperate one. I just hope this comes to a head one way or the other in the next couple of years so we can get on with our lives as a program. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiseAndGrind Posted September 6, 2013 Share Posted September 6, 2013 "What this looks like it will come down to is Saint Louis, and then either Dayton or VCU. Would the Big East's school presidents side with Dayton because it is a private school, and VCU is not? Or would the Big East side with breaking its private school link and add VCU, which holds the basketball edge at this point?" http://t.co/Ng2ActagXN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prebilliken Posted September 6, 2013 Share Posted September 6, 2013 The BE has little to prove at least not right away. They will be able to coast on their laurels for a few years but I agree eventually they will have to put or shut up. I am not sure how tough the A10 will be over the long run - they could go either way. I do think they have the ingredients to be a tough conference next year. I can see the merit of us having choices rather than being the desperate one. I just hope this comes to a head one way or the other in the next couple of years so we can get on with our lives as a program. Its all about that sweet sweet cash. Honestly, the rivalries and prestige are fun but my favorite type of ranking has a "$" in front of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kshoe Posted September 6, 2013 Author Share Posted September 6, 2013 IF invited, it is an absolute no brainer to go if for no other reasons then the significantly improved geography of the Big East, the significantly better television contract and the significantly better cache of the schools in the conference. Its not even a decision worth discussing. Go immediately. If anybody wants to question whether the Big East teams will be good going forward, consider the following: Of the 55 players currently ranked in the top 100 by Scout that have committed already, 10 have committed to Big East schools. The A-10 has 0. The future of the conference is very bright. http://scouthoops.scout.com/a.z?s=75&p=9&c=4&cfg=bb&pid=88&yr=2014 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pistol Posted September 6, 2013 Share Posted September 6, 2013 SLU already has an advantage none of the other schools have- the biggest remaining TV market. The things the school can do to help itself are: -Kick some serious ass on the basketball court this season (and next), and fill the seats at home. -Hire a president who understands the importance of this potential move, and preferably someone who has strong relationships with the other 10 presidents. -Campaign consistently for inclusion, both the school administration and AD's office. And that's pretty much it. Regarding the first point, I really want SLU to be that hot ex-girlfriend this season for the Big East. They took a few other schools that have been sexy at various times but maybe aren't quite what they used to be, looking a little too old for their age, a little flabby. Meanwhile, the one you ignored for years is in top form, gaining national attention on a greater scale than ever before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billiken_roy Posted September 6, 2013 Share Posted September 6, 2013 we shall see. Like i said, cracks exposed. And apparently expansion will not bring full share status to those coming in add the fee we would have to pay to exit and enter and ncaa credits we would have to leave behind, what looks like gold might not really be all it appears to be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kshoe Posted September 6, 2013 Author Share Posted September 6, 2013 we shall see. Like i said, cracks exposed. And apparently expansion will not bring full share status to those coming in add the fee we would have to pay to exit and enter and ncaa credits we would have to leave behind, what looks like gold might not really be all it appears to be. You got a link to the statement that new teams won't get full status? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kshoe Posted September 6, 2013 Author Share Posted September 6, 2013 we shall see. Like i said, cracks exposed. And apparently expansion will not bring full share status to those coming in add the fee we would have to pay to exit and enter and ncaa credits we would have to leave behind, what looks like gold might not really be all it appears to be. You got a link to the statement that new teams won't get full status? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billiken_roy Posted September 6, 2013 Share Posted September 6, 2013 You got a link to the statement that new teams won't get full status? You were at the same luncheon i was. You should pay attention Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quality Is Job 1 Posted September 6, 2013 Share Posted September 6, 2013 we shall see. Like i said, cracks exposed. And apparently expansion will not bring full share status to those coming in add the fee we would have to pay to exit and enter and ncaa credits we would have to leave behind, what looks like gold might not really be all it appears to be. Roy, what you're failing to factor in is the importance of the perception that the Big East is a power conference. They get the TV exposure and NBA-caliber recruits are more likely to go to schools in that conference. SLU would be utterly foolish to turn down the Big East to stay in the A-10. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kshoe Posted September 6, 2013 Author Share Posted September 6, 2013 You were at the same luncheon i was. You should pay attention I was there and was paying attention. What I specifically remember was one guest continuing to ask questions even when it was clear that the questions weren't going to be answered to his satisfaction. It got uncomfortable for many people around the table. I also remember the responses given by the AD and it was obvious we would go if asked so I'm not sure why you keep putting out straw man arguments suggesting we wouldn't go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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