Some questions for everybody on this board?

[courtside]

>Well, we could tell them, if they're from the area of

>course, that their parents could spend a fortune watching

>away games if they are so inclined. We could also sell them

>on getting a rivalry going with Fordham or Rhode Island.

SLU could always join the MVC and use the fact that 70% of the leagues coaches have left in the past two seasons. One had to beg to get his job back when his deal with what he perceived to be a better job, fell through.

[billiken_roy]

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[brianstl]

They could tell them that is easier to fly to games at eight of the A-10 schools than it is to fly to any MVC school.

[courtside]

>Courtside;

>

>wrong again.

>

>The % of Catholic students is an interesting stat, but

>largely irrelevant to my point. (By the way, SLU also has a

>large % of Christians of other denominations. in particular

>evangelical protestants, plus some from other religions.)

>

>It is not the students who primarily determine the

>authenticity/secularization of a school (thank goodness), it

>is the professors (which may or may not be a good thing).

>

>And if you think that Notre Dame has a more religious

>faculty, you are really out of the loop. I know people at

>all of those schools and believe me the faculty there are

>much less committed to the Christian basis of their

>universities that SLU is. It has very little impact in

>hiring even at SLU, and much less at Notre Dame, where if

>anything a profession of faith would likely be a strike

>against a candidate. Generally, the more research oriented

>a college is, the more secularized and the less committed to

>religious dogma.

>

>Your statement about UND's "policy" is pretty much a joke.

>Similar policies have been mentioned here at SLU and largely

>dismissed. Having been intimately involved in hiring at

>SLU, I am just telling you the way it is.

>

>Does my experience in these areas, and my knowledge of the

>field of higher education, qualify as evidence, in your

>opinion? Evidently not. In that case, you might like to

>actually read a few books on these trends, yourself, for

>further evidence. Good ones to start with are George

>Marsden's THE SOUL OF THE UNIVERSITY and Jim Burtchael's THE

>DYING OF THE LIGHT. Let's continue this conversation after

>you wade through those, OK?

Wrong again? Which last wrong were you referring to Doc?

The percentage of Catholic students has no relevance? Ok Doc.

Because you know people at all of these schools, you are somehow most informed, or more informed than everyone else? You just assume I don't know anyone at these places. You'd assume wrong, again.

You make wild generlaizations and comments as usual doc without any evidence support your claims or conclusions. You use the term generally or generalization over and over and over again....and write whatever you like without support, and because you say you are a SLU prof, that is supposed to make your generalities automatically supported by invisible evidence?

Hiring at College Universities has trended to departments Doc. Departments have much more of an impact than the overall University. Also, many non Catholic Schools across the country have well developed Campus Ministry programs.

You suggest that a profession of faith is if anything a strike against a Candidate at Notre Dame. Then why the policy Doc? Why the effort to try to hire more Catholic professors doc?

SLU is no less secularized than the example schools you mentioned. I suppose I should believe it is based only on the evidence of you say it is, or generally that is the case your head.

Doc, I have a lot of experience on college campuses, and know faculty, administrators etc...personally at several institutions....but I would never say something is true or generally true without any sort of evidence to support my claims or conclusions. In typical high horse arrogant fashion .....you provide nothing of fact, but try to provide homework because you are forever in the know and forever the teacher and everyone else is your student.

"I would think"...."In theory" ...."Generally" .....on and on and on .....and never backed up with evidentiary support or fact doc. But we are all supposed to believe what you say because you are the Miagi and we are all Danielson.

Why don't you provide something factual and then come back with another one of your theories. That's your homework assignment.

[moytoy12]

Great post.