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  1. Very interesting comments on Jordan Goodwin and why he may not be recruited by SLU. If this is true, then Jim Crews would have never recruited Dwayne Evans out of high school. Last I remember, he was a pretty good Billiken for an undersized PF that could not shoot. Donnie Dobbs was pretty good too. We were a tournament team with him too. 20 years apart, but two outstanding players that helped the Bills win games and go the NCAA Tournament. The young man from Althoff was a factor in the EYBL against the best in the country and helped the Eagles to the championship game, AS A 16-YEAR OLD. The kid just produces big and wins. That should be a good fit for most programs.
  2. Just to clear up matters on McCaw. His final three schools were UNLV, SMU and SLU. This is indeed true. JC met with the kid and his dad at the Elite Camp and they had hoped to get an offer. SLU did not offer and McCaw's dad was confused and clearly disappointed and somewhat put off by that. Who wouldn't. Mixed message. Not good.This was in June folks. That's not to say that McCaw would have committed immediately like Gillmann did, but SLU would have had the pole position for the entire summer and been in a great position to get him. They went on to chase some other kids that didn't pan out and the circled back to Patrick as a fall back plan.. Coach Platt made a good run at him, but there was too much ground to make up after not offering initially. By then, David Rice and Larry Brown came in with excellent presentations. That's what I meant by McCaw could have been had. Clearly, SLU was in solid position to make it happen if it chose to do so. They did the same thing with Gillmann at the team camp. They called him in the office and offered on the spot. The kid committed two days later. That is how you do it. If you really want a kid, tell him so, make the offer. No mixed message. Granted, Austin didn't have the schools recruiting him that McCaw did, but he responded quickly and the Billikens got a good local big man for the future. How hard was that? They did the same thing with Roby from Memphis and he committed. You offer McCaw in June and make it known that he is a priority and follow him through the summer circuit and the chances are good that you will land him. I think the Billikens were in great shape with him until he wasn't offered early. The talk of him not being interested is pure nonsense. Instead of being a priority, he became a fallback plan. I do like the local kids, but I'm not one that's going to come on here and tout every st. Louis kid to be recruited simply because he is from st. Louis. That would be foolish. However If there is a local kid that SLU likes and really believes in (and I am not talking about Tatum), they must offer him, recruit him hard as a top priority recruit and work it and do give out mixed messages. Players like Cook, Goodwin, Barnes, Gladson, Yess and others seem to fall into that category. It is my understanding that Cook has been to several game this season. Clearly, they like the kid and he appears to like SLU. Has he been offered yet. To my knowledge he hasn't, but I read that Iowa has. How is SLU not his first offer when they clearly like the young man. Believe it or not, these kids are interested in SLU and like what they see. But you're not going to get them with a half-azz effort. Does not work that way. They are no different from the kids from the region that have been successfully recruited. Is it a guarantee that they will become Billikens. Of course not. But you have to get into the fight. SLU has had a history of going only halfway and sending mixed messages is not going to get you the best results. I think that was what Justin Tatum meant.
  3. Just like every other SLU fan, I have really enjoyed the success of our program the past three years. I'm for getting the best players you can, whether they are from St. Louis or not. However, I am getting a strange vibe that some SLU fans are becoming a little haughty when it comes to area recruits. Since when did we become too good for area recruits. Just because we did not have area players does not mean there were STL players that were not good enough to be here. For example, Pat McCaw is a player that could have been had. He was very interested, but was kind of held at bay for several months while other recruits were chased. Only when we lost out to other schools, did we circle back to Patrick and went after him. Only, he had moved on. He is going to UNLV. Pat is a very good player and IMO, better than three of our perimeter players that we've signed, with a higher upside. I guess my point is, If McCaw was made a high priority earlier in the game, he would be a Billiken. Pat is not a 5-star player who was chasing the Dukes and Kentucky's of the world, but a real good player who advances the program in the direction that they are going. And local. I think Austin Gillmann fit into that category as well, by no means an instant impact player, but someone who can develop into a good player for his hometown team and was appreciative of the opportunity. There are several potential players coming up through the ranks. I would hope that SLU will get in the game and get their share. Tyler Cook of Chaminade is a prime example. He should be a Billiken. The Goodwin kid from Althoff should be a Billiken. Barnes from CBC. Are we aggressively recruiting these young players? That is the question. If I am wrong, I will gladly admit it.
  4. Have seen the Suggs kid play. He is good. You are right when you say he is not as good as his brother. But he is as good as if not better than Bartley and Roby. Not a lot of difference between those three. Seen all three of them. However, having already signed all of those perimeter players, really wouldn't be a need for Suggs, but it is not because they were a lot better. He is 6'6 with a pretty good upside. If he goes does go prep school, many schools will be after him IMO.
  5. Have seen some of them, but not overly extensive. Haven't been in St. Louis as much the past couple of years, so people probably know more about the kid from Oakville than me. Heard he has skills, but may need to redshirt. The guards all have talent and I like that they come from good programs such as Whitney Young and White Station. The Reynolds kid is a knockdown shooter and Bartley is smooth at getting to the basket. Roby seems like a junkyard dog type player for me. Good body, good size and pretty good athlete. Cannot shoot, but can have a presence defensively and is pretty versatile. Good role player. Have not seen Jolly as much. The Yarbrough kid is very good. He can really score in a variety of ways. It looks like Jim and his staff put together a good group to build the future around. Way too soon to predict how things turn out, but it looks like a good six-man class, especially when you look at them as a whole. If they grow and develop like the last class, the future will indeed be bright. There will definitely be some growing pains with six freshman and three sophomores, but the upside is pretty good.
  6. The moment Patterson committed, I knew he wasn't going to LSU. I knew SLU's chances of getting him increased dramatically. As it turned out, this is what happened.
  7. Reynolds was a good get, but the deck was cleared for SLU when LSU took the guard from Montverde, which also got them the Simmons kid from 2015. No more room in Baton Rouge. A lot of Roby's SEC love was early, but for whatever reason, it fell off as he got older. good work by SLU guys to get in and scoop him up. Same with Bartley. Very good player, but had an very uneven summer that which caused many to back off. Believe it or not, same thing happened to Van Vleet, whose last summer was up and down. WSU stayed with it while some BCS guys fled. The rest is history. This happens quite frequently.
  8. From what I heard, he probably attended more SLU games this season than any other local high school player.
  9. That's the way it is in the eyes of the recruits and the people around them. That is just the reality of college recruiting. Has nothing to do with being inferior. Should not keep the program from continuing to be successful as we've seen the past three years. Cook is a kid that should be gettable. (for lack of a better term)
  10. I had no idea where the line came from. Not quite computer savvy to remove it. in my next post and poof, the line is gone. I know it was just a few posters, but it was a few too many for my taste.
  11. It is interesting that some are ripping our only other one and done player on another thread and considering him not to be a true Billiken, yet we are trying to roll out the red carpet for another probably one and done player who happens to be his god son.
  12. got my call from the Conk as well. leggo. bad boyz for life
  13. losing a recruit to butler is not a shame, but getting outworked by butler for a top local recruit whose grandfather is the all-time great billiken leaves a bad taste. stevens worked this one hard himself and he got the job done. I think SLU could have gotten Nolan. we made an effort, but way too much slippage on this one, especially with the ties to the SLU program. bad boyz for life
  14. I hope they are in the top 10 when they come in here and we beat them. bad boyz for life